BigZuck wrote:JCougar wrote:How did I ad hom you?
Also, throwing out the "T10" thing was just sort of off the cuff. It's impossible to draw any meaningful line anywhere. If you want to be really accurate, I guess you just have to say "Yale, and it just gets incrimentally worse from there." Satisfied?
The job thing. Also, no.
Look, most reasonable bros here agree with the general message. I'm probably more pessamistic/negative than Rick and Bagel, and I find what you post to be wildly offensive because its incredibly out of touch and seems to be an attempt to lead people astray. It's the hyperbole and the twisted logic that people beef with. It's just not helpful.
The job thing wasn't an ad hom at all. Jeez. If you're that good at portraying people as victims at the hands of an innocent, factual remark, maybe you should apply for a job at a plaintiff's firm.

All I said was that I don't wish the post-graduation job market on anybody, including you. That wasn't meant to be insulting. I also made zero remarks about the prudence of your law school choice or the price you paid (I had no idea about the latter, so how could I?). It's a good decision on your part that you have a debt load that will help you manage.
I'm just stating some advice. The sooner you realize what a grind it is to find a job outside of OCI, the better.
You think I am "hyperbolic" and "offensive," but perhaps my attitude has helped me. The more "negative" (I would call it "realistic") outlook you have about your own situation, the more motivated you are to start doing what you need to do to secure something. After striking out at OCI, I immediately implemented an "all of the above" strategy when it came to getting a job...networking, going to conferences, doing a good job with my journal, organizing speaking events in my field, moderating panels, joining bar associations and other legal organizations, seeking out advice from practicing attorneys on what kinds of skills they value most, using my backgroud to my advantage, etc. Then I finally got the word that possibly my #1 employer was willing to hire me, but then I got sequester-fucked...at least for now. That appears to be coming to an end. In the meantime, I experienced the vast desert that is the post-graduation legal job market, where getting a temp job at $20/hour was considered a huge victory, despite all the work I mentioned above.
Even at schools like yours, post-OCI jobs will not come easily, and ignoring all other detalis, you have about a 60/40 shot
among those who don't have something locked up already to find something. Maybe you already have a strategy worked out...I don't know. Good luck. I mean it.