Test of TLS elitism Forum

Gnome16 · Post by **Gnome16** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:51 pm

A lot of TLS'ers talk about how its only jobs that matter, but there is a lot of elitism lurking on this site.

So take an honest vote..Let's assume 85k debt afterwards for both. Both result in a law job (full time, bar passage required, your personal golden goose egg job as a lawyer)

Which one would you choose?

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:54 pm

Gnome16 wrote:A lot of TLS'ers talk about how its only jobs that matter, but there is a lot of elitism lurking on this site. So take an honest vote..Let's assume 85k debt afterwards for both. Which one would you choose?

This choice reeks of failure. The only jobs that matter are ones that pay over 145k.

If we just wanted "A job" we would have gotten one without law school.

Nova · Post by **Nova** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:56 pm

weird subforum choice.

your hypo is dumb cause its not very plausable. why would you only have a guaranteed job if you attend the TTT?

how much does the hypothetical job pay? Is it in my desired field?

Dingo Starr · Post by **Dingo Starr** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:58 pm

Desert Fox wrote: This choice reeks of failure. The only jobs that matter are ones that pay over 145k.
If we just wanted "A job" we would have gotten one without law school.

A-ha-ha. I see what you did there!

09042014 · Post by **09042014** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:00 pm

Dingo Starr wrote:
Desert Fox wrote: This choice reeks of failure. The only jobs that matter are ones that pay over 145k.
If we just wanted "A job" we would have gotten one without law school.
A-ha-ha. I see what you did there!

I'm only half kidding. What kind of loser thinks just getting a legal job makes them a success. JFC.

Gnome16 · Post by **Gnome16** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:04 pm

Nova wrote:weird subforum choice.

your hypo is dumb cause its not very plausable. why would you only have a guaranteed job if you attend the TTT?

how much does the hypothetical job pay? Is it in my desired field?

Well I suppose case in point here...

Let's say you were a paralegal and the firm you worked for would allow you to become an associate, but only if you kept working as a paralegal part-time and attended a nearby T3 part-time until you graduated--at which time they would make you an associate. They don't want you to leave to go and get snatched up by somebody else, so they condition your awesome golden goose egg employment contingent on graduating from the in-town law school.

A. Nony Mouse · Post by **A. Nony Mouse** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:07 pm

Nova wrote:weird subforum choice.

Yes, very weird subforum choice. Am tempted to lounge it, but I won't.

twenty · Post by **twenty** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:16 pm

Let's assume 85k debt afterwards for both.

At the point where you have an ~70-80% chance of getting biglaw/PIGOVT/A3 right out of the upper half of the T14, 85k debt would be an absolute steal. Screw this hypothetical shite firm.

guano · Post by **guano** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:16 pm

Gnome16 wrote:
Nova wrote:weird subforum choice.

your hypo is dumb cause its not very plausable. why would you only have a guaranteed job if you attend the TTT?

how much does the hypothetical job pay? Is it in my desired field?
Well I suppose case in point here...

Let's say you were a paralegal and the firm you worked for would allow you to become an associate, but only if you kept working as a paralegal part-time and attended a nearby T3 part-time until you graduated--at which time they would make you an associate. They don't want you to leave to go and get snatched up by somebody else, so they condition your awesome golden goose egg employment contingent on graduating from the in-town law school.

Guaranteed firm. no school in the 14-20 range is placing anywhere near half its students into firm jobs, and I don't think (too lazy to look it up) any of those schools are placing more than 3/4 of their students in FT/LT JD required jobs

Nova · Post by **Nova** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:21 pm

Gnome16 wrote:
Nova wrote:weird subforum choice.

your hypo is dumb cause its not very plausable. why would you only have a guaranteed job if you attend the TTT?

how much does the hypothetical job pay? Is it in my desired field?
Well I suppose case in point here...

Let's say you were a paralegal and the firm you worked for would allow you to become an associate, but only if you kept working as a paralegal part-time and attended a nearby T3 part-time until you graduated--at which time they would make you an associate. They don't want you to leave to go and get snatched up by somebody else, so they condition your awesome golden goose egg employment contingent on graduating from the in-town law school.

still need to know how how awesome this firm job is

rickgrimes69 · Post by **rickgrimes69** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:22 pm

OP, this thread is bad and you should feel bad. There are about a million variables you aren't considering.

timbs4339 · Post by **timbs4339** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:59 pm

I think I can rephrase the OP: there's no reason to pick between two schools, now pick between two schools. Elitist!

Lord Randolph McDuff · Post by **Lord Randolph McDuff** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:03 pm

Of course there is elitism on top-law-schools. Combine youth with circle jerks about "rankings."

Who cares? Still a lot of valuable and/or fun things about this site.

jbagelboy · Post by **jbagelboy** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:05 pm

Neither should definitely be an option. It's definitely what I would choose.

I will grant you that most law students that would create accounts on a "top law schools" board may trend at least tangentially toward some form of elitism. It's actually kind of follows ipso facto from name of the board. Doesn't mean elitism defines our decision-making or rational faculties.

Nova · Post by **Nova** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:07 pm

Ok ill just answer my questions myself.

if its my desired field and pays market I would go to the TTT

if it isn't both of those things, I would take my chances at a better school.

midnight_circus · Post by **midnight_circus** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:08 pm

jbagelboy wrote:Neither should definitely be an option. It's definitely what I would choose.

I will grant you that most law students that would create accounts on a "top law schools" board may trend at least tangentially toward some form of elitism. It's actually kind of follows ipso facto from name of the board. Doesn't mean elitism defines our decision-making or rational faculties.

This.

guano · Post by **guano** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:11 pm

Nova wrote:Ok ill just answer my questions myself.

if its my desired field and pays market I would go to the TTT

if it isn't both of those things, I would take my chances at a better school.

if it's a guaranteed job paying $85k and law school is free, I'd take that over paying sticker for a 1/3 chance at earning market

stillwater · Post by **stillwater** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:13 pm

also, just big picture stuff, but this was a terrible test of charged elitism.

Dingo Starr · Post by **Dingo Starr** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:23 pm

stillwater wrote: this was a terrible test of charged elitism.

awww, give it time. let it play out a while...

yeslekkkk · Post by **yeslekkkk** » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:12 am

Gnome16 wrote:A lot of TLS'ers talk about how its only jobs that matter, but there is a lot of elitism lurking on this site.

So take an honest vote..Let's assume 85k debt afterwards for both. Both result in a law job (full time, bar passage required, your personal golden goose egg job as a lawyer)

Which one would you choose?

Hmmm... I think the OP is secretly trying to get everyone's opinions on which school he/she should pick without getting the response of "retake".

stillwater · Post by **stillwater** » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:13 am

when i chose law schools, i picked the shittiest one so i could show all those haterz.

Snowboarder1588 · Post by **Snowboarder1588** » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:38 am

stillwater wrote:when i chose law schools, i picked the shittiest one so i could show all those haterz.

This seriously just made me LOL so hard...hahhaha

daryldixon · Post by **daryldixon** » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:42 am

Anything less than T14 is not worth attending.

Retake.

stillwater · Post by **stillwater** » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:46 am

daryldixon wrote:Anything less than T14 is not worth attending.

Retake.

uhhh okay Daryl. What if i acutally wanna be unemployed? its a choice, okay?

Ti Malice · Post by **Ti Malice** » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:55 am

rickgrimes69 wrote:OP, this thread is bad and you should feel bad.

stillwater wrote:also, just big picture stuff, but this was a terrible test of charged elitism.

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