Test of TLS elitism

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Which would you choose?

Top 14-20 and hedge your bets
73
54%
T3 with 85K guaranteed job afterward
61
46%
 
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Gnome16
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Test of TLS elitism

Postby Gnome16 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:51 pm

A lot of TLS'ers talk about how its only jobs that matter, but there is a lot of elitism lurking on this site.

So take an honest vote..Let's assume 85k debt afterwards for both. Both result in a law job (full time, bar passage required, your personal golden goose egg job as a lawyer)

Which one would you choose?
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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby 09042014 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:54 pm

Gnome16 wrote:A lot of TLS'ers talk about how its only jobs that matter, but there is a lot of elitism lurking on this site. So take an honest vote..Let's assume 85k debt afterwards for both. Which one would you choose?


This choice reeks of failure. The only jobs that matter are ones that pay over 145k.

If we just wanted "A job" we would have gotten one without law school.

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Nova
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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby Nova » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:56 pm

weird subforum choice.

your hypo is dumb cause its not very plausable. why would you only have a guaranteed job if you attend the TTT?

how much does the hypothetical job pay? Is it in my desired field?

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby Dingo Starr » Mon Dec 30, 2013 9:58 pm

Desert Fox wrote:This choice reeks of failure. The only jobs that matter are ones that pay over 145k.
If we just wanted "A job" we would have gotten one without law school.

A-ha-ha. I see what you did there!

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby 09042014 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:00 pm

Dingo Starr wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:This choice reeks of failure. The only jobs that matter are ones that pay over 145k.
If we just wanted "A job" we would have gotten one without law school.

A-ha-ha. I see what you did there!


I'm only half kidding. What kind of loser thinks just getting a legal job makes them a success. JFC.

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby Gnome16 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:04 pm

Nova wrote:weird subforum choice.

your hypo is dumb cause its not very plausable. why would you only have a guaranteed job if you attend the TTT?

how much does the hypothetical job pay? Is it in my desired field?


Well I suppose case in point here...

Let's say you were a paralegal and the firm you worked for would allow you to become an associate, but only if you kept working as a paralegal part-time and attended a nearby T3 part-time until you graduated--at which time they would make you an associate. They don't want you to leave to go and get snatched up by somebody else, so they condition your awesome golden goose egg employment contingent on graduating from the in-town law school.

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:07 pm

Nova wrote:weird subforum choice.

Yes, very weird subforum choice. Am tempted to lounge it, but I won't.

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby twenty » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:16 pm

Let's assume 85k debt afterwards for both.


At the point where you have an ~70-80% chance of getting biglaw/PIGOVT/A3 right out of the upper half of the T14, 85k debt would be an absolute steal. Screw this hypothetical shite firm.

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby guano » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:16 pm

Gnome16 wrote:
Nova wrote:weird subforum choice.

your hypo is dumb cause its not very plausable. why would you only have a guaranteed job if you attend the TTT?

how much does the hypothetical job pay? Is it in my desired field?


Well I suppose case in point here...

Let's say you were a paralegal and the firm you worked for would allow you to become an associate, but only if you kept working as a paralegal part-time and attended a nearby T3 part-time until you graduated--at which time they would make you an associate. They don't want you to leave to go and get snatched up by somebody else, so they condition your awesome golden goose egg employment contingent on graduating from the in-town law school.

Guaranteed firm. no school in the 14-20 range is placing anywhere near half its students into firm jobs, and I don't think (too lazy to look it up) any of those schools are placing more than 3/4 of their students in FT/LT JD required jobs

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby Nova » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:21 pm

Gnome16 wrote:
Nova wrote:weird subforum choice.

your hypo is dumb cause its not very plausable. why would you only have a guaranteed job if you attend the TTT?

how much does the hypothetical job pay? Is it in my desired field?


Well I suppose case in point here...

Let's say you were a paralegal and the firm you worked for would allow you to become an associate, but only if you kept working as a paralegal part-time and attended a nearby T3 part-time until you graduated--at which time they would make you an associate. They don't want you to leave to go and get snatched up by somebody else, so they condition your awesome golden goose egg employment contingent on graduating from the in-town law school.

still need to know how how awesome this firm job is
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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby rickgrimes69 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:22 pm

OP, this thread is bad and you should feel bad. There are about a million variables you aren't considering.

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby timbs4339 » Mon Dec 30, 2013 10:59 pm

I think I can rephrase the OP: there's no reason to pick between two schools, now pick between two schools. Elitist!

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby Lord Randolph McDuff » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:03 pm

Of course there is elitism on top-law-schools. Combine youth with circle jerks about "rankings."

Who cares? Still a lot of valuable and/or fun things about this site.

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:05 pm

Neither should definitely be an option. It's definitely what I would choose.

I will grant you that most law students that would create accounts on a "top law schools" board may trend at least tangentially toward some form of elitism. It's actually kind of follows ipso facto from name of the board. Doesn't mean elitism defines our decision-making or rational faculties.

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby Nova » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:07 pm

Ok ill just answer my questions myself.

if its my desired field and pays market I would go to the TTT

if it isn't both of those things, I would take my chances at a better school.

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby midnight_circus » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:08 pm

jbagelboy wrote:Neither should definitely be an option. It's definitely what I would choose.

I will grant you that most law students that would create accounts on a "top law schools" board may trend at least tangentially toward some form of elitism. It's actually kind of follows ipso facto from name of the board. Doesn't mean elitism defines our decision-making or rational faculties.


This.

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby guano » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:11 pm

Nova wrote:Ok ill just answer my questions myself.

if its my desired field and pays market I would go to the TTT

if it isn't both of those things, I would take my chances at a better school.

if it's a guaranteed job paying $85k and law school is free, I'd take that over paying sticker for a 1/3 chance at earning market

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby stillwater » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:13 pm

also, just big picture stuff, but this was a terrible test of charged elitism.

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Dingo Starr
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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby Dingo Starr » Mon Dec 30, 2013 11:23 pm

stillwater wrote: this was a terrible test of charged elitism.

awww, give it time. let it play out a while...

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby yeslekkkk » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:12 am

Gnome16 wrote:A lot of TLS'ers talk about how its only jobs that matter, but there is a lot of elitism lurking on this site.

So take an honest vote..Let's assume 85k debt afterwards for both. Both result in a law job (full time, bar passage required, your personal golden goose egg job as a lawyer)

Which one would you choose?


Hmmm... I think the OP is secretly trying to get everyone's opinions on which school he/she should pick without getting the response of "retake".

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby stillwater » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:13 am

when i chose law schools, i picked the shittiest one so i could show all those haterz.

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby Snowboarder1588 » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:38 am

stillwater wrote:when i chose law schools, i picked the shittiest one so i could show all those haterz.



This seriously just made me LOL so hard...hahhaha

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby daryldixon » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:42 am

Anything less than T14 is not worth attending.

Retake.

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby stillwater » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:46 am

daryldixon wrote:Anything less than T14 is not worth attending.

Retake.


uhhh okay Daryl. What if i acutally wanna be unemployed? its a choice, okay?

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Re: Test of TLS elitism

Postby Ti Malice » Tue Dec 31, 2013 12:55 am

rickgrimes69 wrote:OP, this thread is bad and you should feel bad.

stillwater wrote:also, just big picture stuff, but this was a terrible test of charged elitism.




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