most small businesses are corporationsjohn1990 wrote:Well I think its more of a regular client base that various firms use. Even if a firm has some corporations in their client base they may not have as many. Most Law schools report salary medians for "business law" and this varies from corporate law and I suspect that this would be the reason why. It is a firm which deals primarily with businesses which aren't corporations. Its smaller business and you would think less workstillwater wrote:so if you would only do transactions outside of the "corporate format", will you sagely turn away small business work from businesses that are incorporated because nothing in the corporate format gets past this gatekeeper?
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at hellojohn1990 wrote:
Where did I lose you
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I was unemployed so there's technically no opportunity coststillwater wrote:but worse than losing 3 years of income to get a piece of paper and no jerb.john1990 wrote:Well Im in at 4T for free. That's better than being unemployedmidnight_circus wrote:To be honest, I think you need more help than an anonymous internet forum can provide.
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see guano above.john1990 wrote:Where did I lose youstillwater wrote:this makes no sense, at all.john1990 wrote:Well I think its more of a regular client base that various firms use. Even if a firm has some corporations in their client base they may not have as many. Most Law schools report salary medians for "business law" and this varies from corporate law and I suspect that this would be the reason why. It is a firm which deals primarily with businesses which aren't corporations. Its smaller business and you would think less workstillwater wrote:so if you would only do transactions outside of the "corporate format", will you sagely turn away small business work from businesses that are incorporated because nothing in the corporate format gets past this gatekeeper?
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Whose a pretty girlguano wrote:at hellojohn1990 wrote:
Where did I lose you
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Your a pretty girlstillwater wrote:see guano above.stillwater wrote:Where did I lose youjohn1990 wrote:stillwater wrote:so if you would only do transactions outside of the "corporate format", will you sagely turn away small business work from businesses that are incorporated because nothing in the corporate format gets past this gatekeeper?
this makes no sense, at all.
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I don't think he was referring to help about which law school to attend.john1990 wrote:Well Im in at 4T for free. That's better than being unemployedmidnight_circus wrote:To be honest, I think you need more help than an anonymous internet forum can provide.
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If you are a real person who is actually a first-year student at Thomas Jefferson School of Law, I suggest that you consider dropping out and working for a year as a paralegal while studying to retake the LSAT. This will hopefully give you an idea of what the firm culture is like in regards to hours worked, subject matter, etc., and it will help improve your employment prospects by allowing you to go to a better school. With a 3.3 GPA, you could get a pretty legit scholarship from some decent schools (even some T14 probably) if you can pull your LSAT score up. Although it would be wise to leave TJSL because of their employment rates, there is only 1 school near Boston that is worth paying for, and it isn't BC or BU.
Lastly, this.
Lastly, this.
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Is it possible you are confusing salaries for those going into business with salaries for "business law?" I've seen the former but never the latter. Can you provide an example of a salary report that has a section for business law in which this refers to smaller firms serving unincorporated businesses?john1990 wrote:Well I think its more of a regular client base that various firms use. Even if a firm has some corporations in their client base they may not have as many. Most Law schools report salary medians for "business law" and this varies from corporate law and I suspect that this would be the reason why. It is a firm which deals primarily with businesses which aren't corporations. Its smaller business and you would think less workstillwater wrote:so if you would only do transactions outside of the "corporate format", will you sagely turn away small business work from businesses that are incorporated because nothing in the corporate format gets past this gatekeeper?
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Bizzare thread is bizzare.
OP: maybe take some time off and work? You said you used to be an accountant? I'd do that for a couple years and see where you are then. Probably more lucrative and stable than rolling the dice with BU...
OP: maybe take some time off and work? You said you used to be an accountant? I'd do that for a couple years and see where you are then. Probably more lucrative and stable than rolling the dice with BU...
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Yea he was matejingosaur wrote:I don't think he was referring to help about which law school to attend.john1990 wrote:Well Im in at 4T for free. That's better than being unemployedmidnight_circus wrote:To be honest, I think you need more help than an anonymous internet forum can provide.
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I have already taken time of to work and could not improve my lsat scoreRegulus wrote:If you are a real person who is actually a first-year student at Thomas Jefferson School of Law, I suggest that you consider dropping out and working for a year as a paralegal while studying to retake the LSAT. This will hopefully give you an idea of what the firm culture is like in regards to hours worked, subject matter, etc., and it will help improve your employment prospects by allowing you to go to a better school. With a 3.3 GPA, you could get a pretty legit scholarship from some decent schools (even some T14 probably) if you can pull your LSAT score up. Although it would be wise to leave TJSL because of their employment rates, there is only 1 school near Boston that is worth paying for, and it isn't BC or BU.
Lastly, this.
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http://www.tjsl.edu/sites/default/files ... 202012.pdfkwais wrote:Is it possible you are confusing salaries for those going into business with salaries for "business law?" I've seen the former but never the latter. Can you provide an example of a salary report that has a section for business law in which this refers to smaller firms serving unincorporated businesses?john1990 wrote:Well I think its more of a regular client base that various firms use. Even if a firm has some corporations in their client base they may not have as many. Most Law schools report salary medians for "business law" and this varies from corporate law and I suspect that this would be the reason why. It is a firm which deals primarily with businesses which aren't corporations. Its smaller business and you would think less workstillwater wrote:so if you would only do transactions outside of the "corporate format", will you sagely turn away small business work from businesses that are incorporated because nothing in the corporate format gets past this gatekeeper?
Notice the employment categories on page 2 which include "business" This 23% cannot be corporate law at TJSL
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john1990 wrote:
http://www.tjsl.edu/sites/default/files ... 202012.pdf
Notice the employment categories on page 2 which include "business" This 23% cannot be corporate law at TJSL
it means they work for a business... which could include such notable employers as walmart and starbucks
edit to be more helpful: look at the bottom. of the "business" jobs, 12% require bar passage, and 33% are JD advantage. That means more than half of "business" jobs are not in any way related to the law
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Regardless I'm referring to that 50%. Those are the jobs I'm talking aboutguano wrote:john1990 wrote:
http://www.tjsl.edu/sites/default/files ... 202012.pdf
Notice the employment categories on page 2 which include "business" This 23% cannot be corporate law at TJSL
it means they work for a business... which could include such notable employers as walmart and starbucks
edit to be more helpful: look at the bottom. of the "business" jobs, 12% require bar passage, and 33% are JD advantage. That means more than half of "business" jobs are not in any way related to the law
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what 50%?john1990 wrote:Regardless I'm referring to that 50%. Those are the jobs I'm talking aboutguano wrote:john1990 wrote:
http://www.tjsl.edu/sites/default/files ... 202012.pdf
Notice the employment categories on page 2 which include "business" This 23% cannot be corporate law at TJSL
it means they work for a business... which could include such notable employers as walmart and starbucks
edit to be more helpful: look at the bottom. of the "business" jobs, 12% require bar passage, and 33% are JD advantage. That means more than half of "business" jobs are not in any way related to the law
oh, you mean the 45% of JD advantage/JD required business jobs? That category covers 23% of the class, so you're talking 10% of the class overall.
To break it down, 7% of the class are basically paralegals, 3% are actual lawyers working in-house for some business. How many of those do you think got the job through family connections?
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So the answer appears to be in house for a business. You cant really guess how many were from a family connection
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not gonna guess... the answer is that only about 3% of the class got those kind of jobs.john1990 wrote:So the answer appears to be in house for a business. You cant really guess how many were from a family connection
What I can tell you is that those kind of jobs generally fall into 2 categories:
1) big businesses; they generally prefer the better ranked schools, though most have stopped hiring fresh grads and instead take people who've had a few years experience at a firm
2) small businesses that rarely hire fresh grads, and usually do so through connections (because your uncle vouched for you, or your parents' best friend watched you grow up)
Got any family friends with their own business?
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What about mid sized. Also you just effectively guessed all of them....guano wrote:not gonna guess... the answer is that only about 3% of the class got those kind of jobs.john1990 wrote:So the answer appears to be in house for a business. You cant really guess how many were from a family connection
What I can tell you is that those kind of jobs generally fall into 2 categories:
1) big businesses; they generally prefer the better ranked schools, though most have stopped hiring fresh grads and instead take people who've had a few years experience at a firm
2) small businesses that rarely hire fresh grads, and usually do so through connections (because your uncle vouched for you, or your parents' best friend watched you grow up)
Got any family friends with their own business?
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some mid-sized are more like big business, some more like small business. See comments 1 and 2 above.john1990 wrote:What about mid sized. Also you just effectively guessed all of them....guano wrote:not gonna guess... the answer is that only about 3% of the class got those kind of jobs.john1990 wrote:So the answer appears to be in house for a business. You cant really guess how many were from a family connection
What I can tell you is that those kind of jobs generally fall into 2 categories:
1) big businesses; they generally prefer the better ranked schools, though most have stopped hiring fresh grads and instead take people who've had a few years experience at a firm
2) small businesses that rarely hire fresh grads, and usually do so through connections (because your uncle vouched for you, or your parents' best friend watched you grow up)
Got any family friends with their own business?
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No, I wasn't. I've read a lot of the threads you've started (morbid curiosity) and I think you should consider getting counseling.john1990 wrote:Yea he was matejingosaur wrote:I don't think he was referring to help about which law school to attend.john1990 wrote:Well Im in at 4T for free. That's better than being unemployedmidnight_circus wrote:To be honest, I think you need more help than an anonymous internet forum can provide.
1. Drop out. 2. Seek medical help. 3. Retake. Then come back and try again.
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You don't get it. He was not. Also medical help for what lol I think you need medical helpjohn1990 wrote:No, I wasn't. I've read a lot of the threads you've started (morbid curiosity) and I think you should consider getting counseling.jingosaur wrote:Yea he was matejohn1990 wrote:midnight_circus wrote:To be honest, I think you need more help than an anonymous internet forum can provide.
I don't think he was referring to help about which law school to attend.
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Page five of that NALP report is very interesting. Looks like most employed grads either had a connection or hung a shingle. Only three grads got a job through OCI. 38% of those lucky enough to be employed are looking for another job.
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This isn't about TJSL it was about defining business law. Now can we agree that in house at a business works less hours?Max324 wrote:Page five of that NALP report is very interesting. Looks like most employed grads either had a connection or hung a shingle. Only three grads got a job through OCI. 38% of those lucky enough to be employed are looking for another job.
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