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UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:20 am
by Moonlight
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Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:37 am
by Nova
Davis is better

Neither are reasonable options without close to a full ride


Davis wrote:•61.4% of graduates were known to be employed in long-term, full-time legal jobs. 0.5% of these jobs were school-funded jobs.
•70.8% graduates were employed in long-term jobs.
•71.3% graduates were employed in full-time jobs.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=davis

Hastings wrote:•46.3% of graduates were known to be employed in long-term, full-time legal jobs. This figure includes no school-funded jobs.
•59.8% graduates were employed in long-term jobs.
•57.8% graduates were employed in full-time jobs.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=hastings

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:40 am
by eaternation
If I had to choose between the two id prob choose davis. Cheaper rent (col). Slightly better employment numbers. U could also try to hustle your way into a non legal gov job in sacramento.

If you aren't big law focused and have a large scholarship, it could be worth it

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 3:59 am
by BigZuck
Neither. Retake.

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:25 am
by rickgrimes69
Nova wrote:Davis is better

Neither are reasonable options without close to a full ride.

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:48 am
by phillywc
rickgrimes69 wrote:
Nova wrote:Davis is better

Neither are reasonable options without close to a full ride.

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 12:27 pm
by californiauser
Depends. Do you want to be a paid lawyer? If yes, neither.

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:03 pm
by nebula666
californiauser wrote:Depends. Do you want to be a paid lawyer? If yes, neither.


Yeah because those 61% from Davis are being paid in chocolate coins and monopoly money.


Davis with a good scholarship is not a bad option if you don't want biglaw.

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:15 pm
by californiauser
nebula666 wrote:
californiauser wrote:Depends. Do you want to be a paid lawyer? If yes, neither.


Yeah because those 61% from Davis are being paid in chocolate coins and monopoly money.


Davis with a good scholarship is not a bad option if you don't want biglaw.


50k yearly tuition for a 60% chance of getting any job is a terrible deal. OP did not disclose any scholarship information, so i'm working on the assumption that he's considering paying sticker cost. Davis at 100k+ cost is absurd.

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 1:20 pm
by Nova
californiauser wrote:50k yearly tuition for a 60% chance of getting any job is a terrible deal. OP did not disclose any scholarship information, so i'm working on the assumption that he's considering paying sticker cost. Davis at 100k+ cost is absurd.

OP hasn't been accepted to either.

their numbers are 160/3.7 tho

so they should retake for money

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 5:27 pm
by jbagelboy
Really? There's a relatively recent thread on this exact subject. Search around a bit and read through the responses - we don't need another here.

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 3:36 pm
by apollo2015
I was considering west coast schools too, and decided on Hastings. Between Davis and Hastings, Davis is really pretty (and if you have kids, it is a better place to raise them), but its too far from San Francisco. Also, a big factor in favor of Hastings is the opportunity to live in the Tower. It is half a block from the campus, and about 1/3rd of the Hastings students live in it. The tower is fantastic for networking, socializing, and giving you more hours in each day due to the lack of a commute.

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 4:45 pm
by Moonlight
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Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 5:48 pm
by rickgrimes69
apollo2015 wrote:Also, a big factor in favor of Hastings is the opportunity to live in the Tower. It is half a block from the campus, and about 1/3rd of the Hastings students live in it. The tower is fantastic for networking, socializing, and giving you more hours in each day due to the lack of a commute.


I tried really hard to think of a worse reason for attending a school, but sadly I could not. Forgive me.

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:49 pm
by Moonlight
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Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:55 pm
by ManoftheHour
phillywc wrote:
rickgrimes69 wrote:
Nova wrote:Davis is better

Neither are reasonable options without close to a full ride.

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 6:55 pm
by ManoftheHour
Yu

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HasTTTTings.

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Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:01 pm
by BigZuck
apollo2015 wrote:I was considering west coast schools too, and decided on Hastings. Between Davis and Hastings, Davis is really pretty (and if you have kids, it is a better place to raise them), but its too far from San Francisco. Also, a big factor in favor of Hastings is the opportunity to live in the Tower. It is half a block from the campus, and about 1/3rd of the Hastings students live in it. The tower is fantastic for networking, socializing, and giving you more hours in each day due to the lack of a commute.


But you agree that Hastings isn't really worth attending, yes?

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:44 pm
by ManoftheHour
YU SEE HASTTTTINGS?!

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Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 7:58 pm
by californiauser
apollo2015 wrote:I was considering west coast schools too, and decided on Hastings. Between Davis and Hastings, Davis is really pretty (and if you have kids, it is a better place to raise them), but its too far from San Francisco. Also, a big factor in favor of Hastings is the opportunity to live in the Tower. It is half a block from the campus, and about 1/3rd of the Hastings students live in it. The tower is fantastic for networking, socializing, and giving you more hours in each day due to the lack of a commute.


Located in the worst neighborhood in SF. There are plenty of other, better schools where you can live close to other students.

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:47 am
by 20160810
SF rent is a three-year ass-reaming. I paid about $500/mo for my own room in a decent place in Davis. The difference in rent alone could plausibly add up to ~$30,000 over three years, which is non-trivial.

There's an idea that Davis gets you stuck in Sacramento, which is pretty dumb. The same firms generally interview at both schools, and Sac firms are reluctant to hire people without ties to the area from either Davis or Hastings.

Also, firms use *the exact same GPA cutoff for both schools* which means that if you want a firm job and you're dead-set against retaking, it literally doesn't matter which one you pick.

FWIW, I went to Davis, had a blast, and now I have a pretty decent job despite good but not stellar grades. I'm sure a comparable experience from Hastings is equally possible, but I will say that professors from Davis went out of their way to help me get a SA gig and my first job out of law school, so I owe them a debt of gratitude. The faculty is really a high point at UCD, but again, I've never taken so much as a single class at Hastings, so it's not as if I really have a frame of reference here.

TLDR: I liked Davis, but you may as well just flip a coin.

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:02 am
by BigZuck
SBL wrote:SF rent is a three-year ass-reaming. I paid about $500/mo for my own room in a decent place in Davis. The difference in rent alone could plausibly add up to ~$30,000 over three years, which is non-trivial.

There's an idea that Davis gets you stuck in Sacramento, which is pretty dumb. The same firms generally interview at both schools, and Sac firms are reluctant to hire people without ties to the area from either Davis or Hastings.

Also, firms use *the exact same GPA cutoff for both schools* which means that if you want a firm job and you're dead-set against retaking, it literally doesn't matter which one you pick.

FWIW, I went to Davis, had a blast, and now I have a pretty decent job despite good but not stellar grades. I'm sure a comparable experience from Hastings is equally possible, but I will say that professors from Davis went out of their way to help me get a SA gig and my first job out of law school, so I owe them a debt of gratitude. The faculty is really a high point at UCD, but again, I've never taken so much as a single class at Hastings, so it's not as if I really have a frame of reference here.

TLDR: I liked Davis, but you may as well just flip a coin.


How much did you pay in tuition at Davis? What was your debt at graduation? How many of your classmates have jobs that can service their debt?

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:04 am
by 20160810
BigZuck wrote:
SBL wrote:SF rent is a three-year ass-reaming. I paid about $500/mo for my own room in a decent place in Davis. The difference in rent alone could plausibly add up to ~$30,000 over three years, which is non-trivial.

There's an idea that Davis gets you stuck in Sacramento, which is pretty dumb. The same firms generally interview at both schools, and Sac firms are reluctant to hire people without ties to the area from either Davis or Hastings.

Also, firms use *the exact same GPA cutoff for both schools* which means that if you want a firm job and you're dead-set against retaking, it literally doesn't matter which one you pick.

FWIW, I went to Davis, had a blast, and now I have a pretty decent job despite good but not stellar grades. I'm sure a comparable experience from Hastings is equally possible, but I will say that professors from Davis went out of their way to help me get a SA gig and my first job out of law school, so I owe them a debt of gratitude. The faculty is really a high point at UCD, but again, I've never taken so much as a single class at Hastings, so it's not as if I really have a frame of reference here.

TLDR: I liked Davis, but you may as well just flip a coin.


How much did you pay in tuition at Davis? What was your debt at graduation? How many of your classmates have jobs that can service their debt?

(1.) Nothing, (2.) Not a lot, (3.) I don't know, but not enough.

I'm not saying it's a lovely idea to borrow $200,000 to go to UCD. I'm just saying that if you're dead set on picking one of these two schools, it's a coin toss.

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 3:10 am
by BigZuck
SBL wrote:
BigZuck wrote:
SBL wrote:SF rent is a three-year ass-reaming. I paid about $500/mo for my own room in a decent place in Davis. The difference in rent alone could plausibly add up to ~$30,000 over three years, which is non-trivial.

There's an idea that Davis gets you stuck in Sacramento, which is pretty dumb. The same firms generally interview at both schools, and Sac firms are reluctant to hire people without ties to the area from either Davis or Hastings.

Also, firms use *the exact same GPA cutoff for both schools* which means that if you want a firm job and you're dead-set against retaking, it literally doesn't matter which one you pick.

FWIW, I went to Davis, had a blast, and now I have a pretty decent job despite good but not stellar grades. I'm sure a comparable experience from Hastings is equally possible, but I will say that professors from Davis went out of their way to help me get a SA gig and my first job out of law school, so I owe them a debt of gratitude. The faculty is really a high point at UCD, but again, I've never taken so much as a single class at Hastings, so it's not as if I really have a frame of reference here.

TLDR: I liked Davis, but you may as well just flip a coin.


How much did you pay in tuition at Davis? What was your debt at graduation? How many of your classmates have jobs that can service their debt?

(1.) Nothing, (2.) Not a lot, (3.) I don't know, but not enough.

I'm not saying it's a lovely idea to borrow $200,000 to go to UCD. I'm just saying that if you're dead set on picking one of these two schools, it's a coin toss.


I guess that's where we differ. I think that's a dumb false dichotomy and I can't in good conscience suggest that either are anything but a bad decision. Cuz math and probabilities and stuff.

Different strokes for different folks.

Re: UC Hastings vs UC Davis

Posted: Sat Dec 28, 2013 2:46 pm
by apollo2015
rickgrimes69 wrote:
apollo2015 wrote:Also, a big factor in favor of Hastings is the opportunity to live in the Tower. It is half a block from the campus, and about 1/3rd of the Hastings students live in it. The tower is fantastic for networking, socializing, and giving you more hours in each day due to the lack of a commute.


I tried really hard to think of a worse reason for attending a school, but sadly I could not. Forgive me.


Being social is important, as is saving time.

Moonlight wrote:And yea I haven't been admitted to either yet. I've been admitted to other Bay Area schools with Dean's Fellowships though. Hastings releases admissions in January usually right? I assume same is true of Davis?


Congratulations! If USF is one of them, I recommend checking with them regarding their student housing options for law/grad students. I think they have only a limited amount of housing available, so I'd look into that ASAP.

And yes, Hastings starts releasing regular decision acceptances in January. Acceptances come out later too depending on when one applied.