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SU?

Postby warandpeace » Sat Nov 23, 2013 2:58 pm

How bad is Seattle University for a law school if we want to stay and practice in Seattle? Does it have any potential to transfer over to Oregon?

Thank you

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Re: SU?

Postby Ron Mexico » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:19 pm

UW >>>> GU > SU

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Re: SU?

Postby warandpeace » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:31 pm

Ron Mexico wrote:UW >>>> GU > SU


Gonzaga law is better than SU? How?

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Re: SU?

Postby jbagelboy » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:49 pm

warandpeace wrote:
Ron Mexico wrote:UW >>>> GU > SU


Gonzaga law is better than SU? How?


For PNW, other than CA schools, UW >>>>>> the others, it doesn't really matter. Why are you precluded from UW?

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Re: SU?

Postby Ron Mexico » Sat Nov 23, 2013 3:56 pm

warandpeace wrote:
Ron Mexico wrote:UW >>>> GU > SU


Gonzaga law is better than SU? How?


Lower price, better employment, has it's own market where it is very well respected.

Don't get me wrong though, they are both bad choices. UDub or bust, dood.

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Re: SU?

Postby PepperJack » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:16 pm

Other than better prep for the WA bar, how is Gonzaga better than U.C. Davis? It's 6 hours away, and couldn't be more different from Seattle. Gonzaga is considered almost ivy-leaguish in Spokane, but it's Spokane. There's no bustling industry. It's a combination of middle class and trailer park trash. Eastern Washington isn't really home to the best and the brightest, but predominately those that can't make it in Western Washington. The basketball team and red turf at EWU make it more decent, but we're speaking about a part of the country with an average IQ below 90. I guarantee you there's no top Seattle firms going well, SU sucks but Gonzaga, let's bring him in. If you have a tie, any top 14 is the way to go. Seattle firms are well aware their law schools suck.

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Re: SU?

Postby Ron Mexico » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:18 pm

PepperJack wrote:Other than better prep for the WA bar, how is Gonzaga better than U.C. Davis? It's 6 hours away, and couldn't be more different from Seattle. Gonzaga is considered almost ivy-leaguish in Spokane, but it's Spokane. There's no bustling industry. It's a combination of middle class and trailer park trash. Eastern Washington isn't really home to the best and the brightest, but predominately those that can't make it in Western Washington. The basketball team and red turf at EWU make it more decent, but we're speaking about a part of the country with an average IQ below 90.


UC Davis? What are you talking about

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Re: SU?

Postby PepperJack » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:19 pm

Ron Mexico wrote:
PepperJack wrote:Other than better prep for the WA bar, how is Gonzaga better than U.C. Davis? It's 6 hours away, and couldn't be more different from Seattle. Gonzaga is considered almost ivy-leaguish in Spokane, but it's Spokane. There's no bustling industry. It's a combination of middle class and trailer park trash. Eastern Washington isn't really home to the best and the brightest, but predominately those that can't make it in Western Washington. The basketball team and red turf at EWU make it more decent, but we're speaking about a part of the country with an average IQ below 90.


UC Davis? What are you talking about

I was saying the tie of Spokane to Seattle isn't much better than the Bay Area to Seattle i.e. it's non-existent.

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Re: SU?

Postby Ron Mexico » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:21 pm

PepperJack wrote:
Ron Mexico wrote:
PepperJack wrote:Other than better prep for the WA bar, how is Gonzaga better than U.C. Davis? It's 6 hours away, and couldn't be more different from Seattle. Gonzaga is considered almost ivy-leaguish in Spokane, but it's Spokane. There's no bustling industry. It's a combination of middle class and trailer park trash. Eastern Washington isn't really home to the best and the brightest, but predominately those that can't make it in Western Washington. The basketball team and red turf at EWU make it more decent, but we're speaking about a part of the country with an average IQ below 90.


UC Davis? What are you talking about

I was saying the tie of Spokane to Seattle isn't much better than the Bay Area to Seattle i.e. it's non-existent.


Oh yea, Spokane/Cd'A metro is still it's own market and there are some jobs. While it is small, it is still dominated by GU. I mean, don't get me wrong SU and GU are both terrible choices, GU is just slightly less worse

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Re: SU?

Postby PepperJack » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:23 pm

But if OP wants Seattle, this is kind of like going to Buffalo to get to NYC. There are few states that has as big of a difference between two cities in every regard including salaries, COL, politics, industry, culture, etc. WA is actually fascinating in that 90% of the state believes lesbians cause cancer, but the rational majority is clustered around 1 city that normally wins the vote. Spokane is hundreds and hundreds of miles from Seattle. Nobody is driving from Spokane to Seattle.

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Re: SU?

Postby Ron Mexico » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:25 pm

PepperJack wrote:But if OP wants Seattle, this is kind of like going to Buffalo to get to NYC. There are few states that has as big of a difference between two cities in every regard including salaries, COL, politics, industry, culture, etc. WA is actually fascinating in that 90% of the state believes lesbians cause cancer, but the rational majority is clustered around 1 city that normally wins the vote. Spokane is hundreds and hundreds of miles from Seattle. Nobody is driving from Spokane to Seattle.


Yes, I know WA very well. It is an entirely different world in Eastern Wa. I was just talking about Wa state schools in general.

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Re: SU?

Postby PepperJack » Sat Nov 23, 2013 4:30 pm

Additionally, LR grade on's at my t-14 who had "some" ties to Seattle, couldn't get it.

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Re: SU?

Postby crit_racer » Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:06 am

top 5% at UT/UCLA/Vandy w/ ties to Seattle and couldn't get back. RUN. FOR. YOUR. LIFE.

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Re: SU?

Postby Kimikho » Sun Nov 24, 2013 5:32 pm

PepperJack wrote:Additionally, LR grade on's at my t-14 who had "some" ties to Seattle, couldn't get it.

if we are going by anecdotes, then I know several perkins coie people who went to SU.

that all being said, it's rare. SU is a regional school competing against a better regional school that's competing against berkeley and stanford.

SU has no potential transfer rate back to oregon, but to be fair, oregon itself doesn't do a good job of that either.

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Re: SU?

Postby ghostofdreams » Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:51 pm

Seattle U has the top legal writing program in the nation.
Last governor of WA was from Gonzaga.

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Re: SU?

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:55 pm

ghostofdreams wrote:Seattle U has the top legal writing program in the nation.

Nobody cares. Specialty rankings are irrelevant to everything/one except the profs asked to rank them (and they rank them based on their opinion of the quality of the profs' work, not on the outcomes for the students in the program).

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Re: SU?

Postby Nova » Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:06 pm

warandpeace wrote:How bad is Seattle University for a law school if we want to stay and practice in Seattle? Does it have any potential to transfer over to Oregon?

Thank you

Look at LST

Less than half of grads become lawyers

Don't go

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Re: SU?

Postby Kimikho » Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:33 pm

ghostofdreams wrote:Last governor of WA was from Gonzaga.


last i checked you dont need a JD to be governor.

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Re: SU?

Postby ghostofdreams » Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:21 pm

scoobers wrote:
ghostofdreams wrote:Last governor of WA was from Gonzaga.


last i checked you dont need a JD to be governor.


she was also the attorney general. That's a jd required job

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Re: SU?

Postby isit3Lyet? » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:24 am

Hey. I transferred out of SU. I created an account because I felt morally obligated to tell you not to go to SU unless you go with a full ride. Best case scenario, you go for free and you have a fabulous spouse/boyfriend/girlfriend who will help you cover the very expensive COL in Seattle for the three years.

But, if neither of these scenarios apply to you, don't do it. Please.

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Re: SU?

Postby ltrego » Sun Dec 08, 2013 2:30 am

Ron Mexico wrote: It is an entirely different world in Eastern Wa.


Oh my Jesus. This. Get me out of here.

That said, as someone who currently lives in Spokompton, a GU degree, if you do well, gives you a pretty good chance at a job in Spokane/CDA. But it may not be the best option if you don't want to stay in E. Wa. (And unless Northern Idaho sounds appealing to you, you don't want to stay in Eastern Washington. They're basically the same.)

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Re: SU?

Postby ghostofdreams » Sat Mar 15, 2014 8:28 pm

isit3Lyet? wrote:Hey. I transferred out of SU. I created an account because I felt morally obligated to tell you not to go to SU unless you go with a full ride. Best case scenario, you go for free and you have a fabulous spouse/boyfriend/girlfriend who will help you cover the very expensive COL in Seattle for the three years.

But, if neither of these scenarios apply to you, don't do it. Please.



SU does appear hella expensive. I met one person attending SU and I really should have pinned her down with some questions, but . . . we were all drinking at the time. However, I am planning to visit the law school this coming spring. More so to do something, but to also visit the two Seattle law schools.

BTW, there will be a UW law school, apparently, in Tacoma. It was in the latest Washington budget bill.

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Re: SU?

Postby Kimikho » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:00 pm

ghostofdreams wrote:
isit3Lyet? wrote:Hey. I transferred out of SU. I created an account because I felt morally obligated to tell you not to go to SU unless you go with a full ride. Best case scenario, you go for free and you have a fabulous spouse/boyfriend/girlfriend who will help you cover the very expensive COL in Seattle for the three years.

But, if neither of these scenarios apply to you, don't do it. Please.



SU does appear hella expensive. I met one person attending SU and I really should have pinned her down with some questions, but . . . we were all drinking at the time. However, I am planning to visit the law school this coming spring. More so to do something, but to also visit the two Seattle law schools.

BTW, there will be a UW law school, apparently, in Tacoma. It was in the latest Washington budget bill.


That was a proposal, not a budget, and they didn't consult UW or provide enough money to start a law school. It really just says that a few state senators want it to happen for some god awful reason.

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Re: SU?

Postby Ron Mexico » Sat Mar 15, 2014 10:03 pm

UPS should just open up a law school again.

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Re: SU?

Postby ghostofdreams » Sat Mar 15, 2014 11:01 pm

scoobers wrote:
ghostofdreams wrote:
isit3Lyet? wrote:Hey. I transferred out of SU. I created an account because I felt morally obligated to tell you not to go to SU unless you go with a full ride. Best case scenario, you go for free and you have a fabulous spouse/boyfriend/girlfriend who will help you cover the very expensive COL in Seattle for the three years.

But, if neither of these scenarios apply to you, don't do it. Please.



SU does appear hella expensive. I met one person attending SU and I really should have pinned her down with some questions, but . . . we were all drinking at the time. However, I am planning to visit the law school this coming spring. More so to do something, but to also visit the two Seattle law schools.

BTW, there will be a UW law school, apparently, in Tacoma. It was in the latest Washington budget bill.


That was a proposal, not a budget, and they didn't consult UW or provide enough money to start a law school. It really just says that a few state senators want it to happen for some god awful reason.


It was a proposal that became a small provision in the supplemental budget. It is seed money, and it does appear to have been a pet project for a senator.




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