Summer Employment Statistics for c/o 2014

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Summer Employment Statistics for c/o 2014

Postby bowser » Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:19 am

Not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but Columbia and Chicago posted their breakdown for 2L summer jobs, c/o of 2014:

Chicago: http://www.law.uchicago.edu/prospective ... oymentdata
Columbia: http://web.law.columbia.edu/careers/emp ... nformation

The % working at law firms stayed pretty steady: Chicago tipped up 2% to 83%, and Columbia tipped back about 2% to 81%. New Normal sounds about right.

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Re: Summer Employment Statistics for c/o 2014

Postby 2014 » Mon Oct 28, 2013 12:58 am

Our 1L firm stats were 4-5% better than the previous 4 years as well, so here's hoping that means c/o 2015 will push the 83% up a few more ticks.

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Re: Summer Employment Statistics for c/o 2014

Postby gchatbrah » Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:56 am

bowser wrote:Not sure if anyone's mentioned this, but Columbia and Chicago posted their breakdown for 2L summer jobs, c/o of 2014:

Chicago: http://www.law.uchicago.edu/prospective ... oymentdata
Columbia: http://web.law.columbia.edu/careers/emp ... nformation

The % working at law firms stayed pretty steady: Chicago tipped up 2% to 83%, and Columbia tipped back about 2% to 81%. New Normal sounds about right.


As a heads up, I went through our internal information at UChicago to ensure that these firms were national/regional biglaw firms (as opposed to small shops that aren't likely systematically offering their summers), and the numbers are still incredibly impressive. Looks like 80% for this past summer, c/o 2014.

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Re: Summer Employment Statistics for c/o 2014

Postby bowser » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:41 am

I think it's safe to say like 95%+ of the people doing 2L jobs at law firms at these schools are doing it at places which take summers with the expectation of permanent employment (obviously there's the no-offer thing, but that's another discussion I guess).

The numbers kind of tell the story, and they kind of don't. If I were to say that ~15% of the people at CLS who did EIP didn't get an offer out of it, that might sound encouraging to some people, and scary to others. But that seems about right to me.

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Re: Summer Employment Statistics for c/o 2014

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:25 pm

Just combed through Chicago's data and don't want to post it all here since I don't think I'm allowed to, but V5 summer hiring is actually better than pre-recession numbers, and V10 is pretty darn close.

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Re: Summer Employment Statistics for c/o 2014

Postby gchatbrah » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:34 pm

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:Just combed through Chicago's data and don't want to post it all here since I don't think I'm allowed to, but V5 summer hiring is actually better than pre-recession numbers, and V10 is pretty darn close.


my sense is that NYC V10 hiring has been gangbusters for this year's 2L class at UChicago.

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Re: Summer Employment Statistics for c/o 2014

Postby sinfiery » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:49 pm

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:Just combed through Chicago's data and don't want to post it all here since I don't think I'm allowed to, but V5 summer hiring is actually better than pre-recession numbers, and V10 is pretty darn close.

cmon economy, just hold out for 1 more year

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Re: Summer Employment Statistics for c/o 2014

Postby thelawyler » Tue Oct 29, 2013 1:51 pm

Seems right based on NYU - the people last year seemed to do fine. I think I've heard 83% thrown around by NYU OCS for last year's EIW. I'm curious about this year's EIW hiring tho.

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Re: Summer Employment Statistics for c/o 2014

Postby worried0L » Wed Oct 30, 2013 12:30 am

looks like meat's back on the menu boys.

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Re: Summer Employment Statistics for c/o 2014

Postby bowser » Wed Oct 30, 2013 1:25 am

I would caution that 90% (pre-recession at CLS/Chicago) and 80% are significantly different. I know a decent number of people who didn't get an offer out of OCI; and like the past three years, way more people received 3-4 callbacks and 1-2 offers than 8-10, 4-5. Some of those offers came pretty late.

I think many people hoped there would be incremental increases every year, until the T-14 was basically a lock for Biglaw again. That doesn't seem to be happening. There was a boost after the bust, and it's stayed flat since then.

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Re: Summer Employment Statistics for c/o 2014

Postby Tiago Splitter » Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:22 am

bowser wrote:I would caution that 90% (pre-recession at CLS/Chicago) and 80% are significantly different. I know a decent number of people who didn't get an offer out of OCI; and like the past three years, way more people received 3-4 callbacks and 1-2 offers than 8-10, 4-5. Some of those offers came pretty late.

I think many people hoped there would be incremental increases every year, until the T-14 was basically a lock for Biglaw again. That doesn't seem to be happening. There was a boost after the bust, and it's stayed flat since then.

Another view on things: Summer of 2011 had 65% of people at CLS working for V100 firms. In the summer of 2006 that number was 80%. I'd guess that with the reduced class size and slight uptick in hiring our class should be close to 80% again, but maybe not quite all the way there.

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Re: Summer Employment Statistics for c/o 2014

Postby thelawyler » Wed Oct 30, 2013 9:26 am

bowser wrote:I would caution that 90% (pre-recession at CLS/Chicago) and 80% are significantly different. I know a decent number of people who didn't get an offer out of OCI; and like the past three years, way more people received 3-4 callbacks and 1-2 offers than 8-10, 4-5. Some of those offers came pretty late.

I think many people hoped there would be incremental increases every year, until the T-14 was basically a lock for Biglaw again. That doesn't seem to be happening. There was a boost after the bust, and it's stayed flat since then.

This is accurate.




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