University of Iowa's declining enrollment

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Re: University of Iowa's declining enrollment

Postby frcarpen » Thu Oct 03, 2013 7:38 pm

I think Iowa is already starting to change. I have not applied anywhere yet, but I have already received two emails from them, one waiving the application fee, the other telling me that I would be likely to receive a scholarship from them.

My metrics aren't that great either... not bad, but not great. 164 LSAT and 3.6 GPA. I am scheduled for another LSAT this Saturday though.

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Re: University of Iowa's declining enrollment

Postby typ3 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:42 pm

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Re: University of Iowa's declining enrollment

Postby typ3 » Thu Oct 10, 2013 3:55 pm

DportIA wrote:I'm a current student at Iowa, and there is no 'panic' in the law school over this. The consensus from 2Ls and 3Ls is 'wow, the 1Ls will have great job prospects.'

Iowa launched a large fundraising program last year anticipating smaller student enrollment, and the Dean has been very active with alumni groups around the country since. Iowa is, will still be, a great public law school that places fairly well. Another thing to note is no student pays out of state tuition as a 2L or 3L. The law school also has a ton of faculty that are very close to retiring, so I would think faculty/student numbers start to fall back into line.

Panic may be an understatement about the situation at the law school.

I don't know who you are talking to about this, but it's probably 2 & 3L lemmings who don't know much about the legal economy or the law school.

1. The faculty is scared shitless about the looming lay offs. Just ask career services about their 85% benchmark they need to hit for this year's class. Just wait until the real employment #'s come out.

2. The school is on a marketing and alumni blitz to raise 50m to cover the budget shortfall. See alumni dinners and parading students around like its a dog and pony show to try to coax alumni into opening their pocketbooks for the school.

3. The school is already trying to push people into retirement to ease the budget problem but a lot of the faculty doesn't want to step down because they, "wouldn't know what to do with their time."

4. The school has hired consultants to try to fix the problem, as well as a legal technology specialist to speak at the school, Richard Susskind. The comment last year before things were ever this bad was from a professor was, "How do we get students to come here and fill our seats if we tell them are are going to be irrelevant soon?" I recorded this entire speech and have it on my iPad that I can send on if someone wants. The comment and fear on the faces of the faculty was total LOL. Even the older attorneys who arrived their comments afterwards were, "Well, I'm glad I'm getting out at the right time."

5. The school is now attempting to increase revenue by having digital classes streamed to other law schools like Ohio State.

6. The foundation board and university is livid about this year's numbers and the dean and school has specific benchmarks they need to hit despite just telling the foundation board that they planned this year's numbers, "For the students' well being."

7. The university is actively soliciting current students to go attend career fairs for undergrad colleges to recruit students to law school.

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Re: University of Iowa's declining enrollment

Postby californiauser » Thu Oct 10, 2013 4:27 pm

typ3 wrote:
DportIA wrote:I'm a current student at Iowa, and there is no 'panic' in the law school over this. The consensus from 2Ls and 3Ls is 'wow, the 1Ls will have great job prospects.'

Iowa launched a large fundraising program last year anticipating smaller student enrollment, and the Dean has been very active with alumni groups around the country since. Iowa is, will still be, a great public law school that places fairly well. Another thing to note is no student pays out of state tuition as a 2L or 3L. The law school also has a ton of faculty that are very close to retiring, so I would think faculty/student numbers start to fall back into line.

Panic may be an understatement about the situation at the law school.

I don't know who you are talking to about this, but it's probably 2 & 3L lemmings who don't know much about the legal economy or the law school.

1. The faculty is scared shitless about the looming lay offs. Just ask career services about their 85% benchmark they need to hit for this year's class. Just wait until the real employment #'s come out.

2. The school is on a marketing and alumni blitz to raise 50m to cover the budget shortfall. See alumni dinners and parading students around like its a dog and pony show to try to coax alumni into opening their pocketbooks for the school.

3. The school is already trying to push people into retirement to ease the budget problem but a lot of the faculty doesn't want to step down because they, "wouldn't know what to do with their time."

4. The school has hired consultants to try to fix the problem, as well as a legal technology specialist to speak at the school, Richard Susskind. The comment last year before things were ever this bad was from a professor was, "How do we get students to come here and fill our seats if we tell them are are going to be irrelevant soon?" I recorded this entire speech and have it on my iPad that I can send on if someone wants. The comment and fear on the faces of the faculty was total LOL. Even the older attorneys who arrived their comments afterwards were, "Well, I'm glad I'm getting out at the right time."

5. The school is now attempting to increase revenue by having digital classes streamed to other law schools like Ohio State.

6. The foundation board and university is livid about this year's numbers and the dean and school has specific benchmarks they need to hit despite just telling the foundation board that they planned this year's numbers, "For the students' well being."

7. The university is actively soliciting current students to go attend career fairs for undergrad colleges to recruit students to law school.


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