Chowfun wrote:So what I am trying to say is whether the reliance on employment statistics may not be as cut and dry as just looking at numbers.
No, it really is that cut and dry. Coming from St. John's, 11% of the students will go onto a federal clerkship, or biglaw. For literally everyone else, law school was not a worthwhile investment.
What if their are other factors related to why students didn't receive jobs that had nothing to do with the school.
If 95% of the student drivers from Driving School of America passed their driver's license test, and 30% of the students from United School of Driving passed their driver's license test, and that's been an ongoing trend for the last 5-6 years, you'd have to really work on lying to yourself to argue that those numbers aren't related to the school.
Shouldn't the blame be placed on the individual?
Yup, for picking a school that won't help them get a job. I fully agree.
When you really look at who is employed or not really come down to who the individual is? How well they did at law school, their connections, other experiences etc...
Lol that driving school scenario is a straw man argument to prove your point. That's a a different story entirely. Driving school actually teaches you how to drive. So if most kids weren't passing at the one school I would assume that there is problems with the school curriculum. Law school doesn't teach you how to be a lawyer, this I've heard to many times. I've also heard that law school curriculum isn't even much different from one another. (Correct me if I'm wrong
What is it exactly that generates employment statistics? And not the obvious answer, but simply or not so simple to answer, why aren't the students getting jobs. Do employers look at gpa, experience or school when choosing who to hire, which has the most weight? At this point, is the situation as follows: if you want a good job go for the name brand school.
This is what it seems like it is boiling down to. Go to the school with the most prestigious name and clout you can get into, because that alone will guarantee you the job.
Or is it something lacking in Fordham education compared to Columbia and NYU....that Fordham students are overlooked and can't get a job. I mean considering there is some consensus that it's mostly the schools fault that the employment rate of its students is mid 60%.
I'm just trying to figure it out.