kappycaft1 wrote: BigZuck wrote:
Aside from the Penn/Penn State confusion UT as a university undoubtedly has the least amount of lay prestige (just don't tell a Texan that
) in the top 18 schools and probably less than a school like WUSTL IMO. But I think the law school itself has as good a reputation as any school outside of the T14 with people who matter (aka employers).
Yeah, and I'm not saying that's a bad thing. For example, nobody knows wtf UChicago is even though it is consistently ranked within the top 5 even for undergrad, whereas tons of people know Duke because it is a decent school and
has a decent sports team.
In the end, though, all that really matters is that employers know that these schools are decent places to get an education. I think that Harvard, Yale, and Stanford are some of the few places that have nominal - in addition to real - prestige because they have unique titles (as opposed to "the University of Boston," "New Haven College," and "Palo Alto University"). Even Columbia suffers a little from "generic name syndrome" because there's the clothing (and other stuff) company called "Columbia," the country called "Columbia," etc., which many not-very-educated laymen are perhaps more likely to know than an Ivy League school in New York.
I agree with this 100%. I think if you're actually talking about LAY prestige, as in the degree to which people who are completely unfamiliar with academia happen to respect a school by name, then it's pretty much the big Ivy League schools and a bunch of schools that are good at sports. Being from the northeast, I would have thought that Texas A&M was more prestigious than UT (which I had never heard of before applying to law school!) Some random schools have lay recognition for weird reasons though, like Berkeley, UCLA and Vanderbilt. I had heard of these schools and thought they were good even when I was in junior high school, despite the fact that they were nowhere near me.
There's also kind of a negative prestige effect for good schools in your own region, because they're nearby and you know a ton of people who went there and it just doesn't seem like a big deal at all. Some northeastern examples are BU, BC, NYU, and places like Wesleyan or Williams.