recockulous wrote:Registered here just to chime in on this point. I'm not a PSL flack, staffer or alum (I went to ASU Law in the 90s). I work in a gov't agency (mods can see my IP address) and work with law clerks.
When PSL first opened, it had a key advantage: night classes. For a long time, ASU was the only law school in metro Phoenix. ASU only offered daytime classes and a standard three-year full-time grad track. There was no real part-time or night program. Alums and prospective students clamored for one for years, but the staff objected and the management listened to them.
Then PSL opened. They had a part time track, and nighttime classes. Their first class filled immediately, even though they had really high tuition and lacked accreditation (at the time). That was the pent-up demand for part-time and night school at work. The first students to come through PSL in that inaugural class - almost to a person - were professionals by day, and students by night. I had several clerks from this class, and they put their fellow clerks from ASU (and other schools) to shame.
I doubt that. ASU students consistently have higher LSAT and GPA scores than PSOL students and that was true even for PSOL's opening class, in addition to which ASU's tuition is a fraction of PSOL's, automatically rendering anyone who voluntarily chooses PSOL over ASU a complete, blithering idiot.
Top flight people, and I'd have hired any of them. (Note that since PSL opened, ASU now offers night classes... probably because they realized that PSL was eating their lunch).
I doubt that. ASU has always had inflated applicant numbers, due to the combination of its high rank, low instate tuition, and Arizona's monstrous population growth. Perhaps you had a weird combination of some moron ASU grads and brilliant PSOL grads at your agency. Sounds like an anomaly to me.
So I agree with the commenters who told OP not to go. I disagree with the folks who said they'd never hire a PSL grad. Some of those early folks are going to be great lawyers, even if their law school doesn't exist after next year.
I understand that you're agreeing with the fundamnetal point, but still object to your rationalization of any idiot who thinks PSOL is worth its $41,000+ tuition. Johnny Cochrane went to Loyola and Gerry Spence went to Wyoming. That doesn't put those law schools above Yale and Michigan. I have no doubt that some PSOL grad somewhere will be a great rainmaker and another one will be a super trial lawyer and yet another will get a seven figure jury verdict, one day (well, maybe). But that doesn't change the reality of the vast majority of graduates. The partner who said he'd refuse to hire one? That man owns his law firm and built it from the ground up. When he hires a young lawyer but turns out to have misjudged him or her, that hurts his bottom line more directly than it does a government agency. So he refuses to take chances for the sake of giving the pitiful PSOL grad a chance, which is reflective of many law firms in town.
By the way, is there even one firm in town with over 50 lawyers that hired a PSOL grad last year? How many firms over even 10 lawyers did so?
Have you ever seen PSOL's law journal? It is miserably pathetic and embarrassing. If this is the best the school can offer from its brightest students, that is terrifying.