C/O 2016 Class Profiles

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby StylinNProfilin » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:49 pm

Damn LSAT medians dropping like flies. I'm thinking Texas had to have dropped to 166.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby jingosaur » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:53 pm

Paul Campos wrote:Case Western 1L class size:

2010: 236
2011: 194
2012: 154
2013: 104


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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby ExBiglawAssociate » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:57 pm

^^

LOLed IRL at this.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby hephaestus » Wed Aug 21, 2013 2:58 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
ImNoScar wrote:
Paul Campos wrote:Case Western 1L class size:

2010: 236
2011: 194
2012: 154
2013: 104

What do you think comes next? They can't sustain their faculty etc at this rate.


Do they have a large faculty or do they rely on adjuncts in large part?

The thing is CWR is not even the worst law school in Ohio. It'll be interesting to see what happens to Ohio Northern, Dayton etc.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby 09042014 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:02 pm

ImNoScar wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:
ImNoScar wrote:
Paul Campos wrote:Case Western 1L class size:

2010: 236
2011: 194
2012: 154
2013: 104

What do you think comes next? They can't sustain their faculty etc at this rate.


Do they have a large faculty or do they rely on adjuncts in large part?

The thing is CWR is not even the worst law school in Ohio. It'll be interesting to see what happens to Ohio Northern, Dayton etc.


I doubt CWR couldn't find 200 students, they just could find 200 students and not have their medians drop like a rock. Actual TTT's will probably just let their medians drop like a rock.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby 04102014 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:03 pm

Ohio is terrible anyway.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby shaynislegend » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:04 pm

ohpobrecito wrote:Ohio is terrible anyway.


Cleveland being the worst part.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby Lavitz » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:15 pm

jingosaur wrote:
shaynislegend wrote:So far it looks like Duke has been the only school to see an increase in apps?


Duke says that it's one of 7 schools to have an increase in apps. I'm sure most of the other schools are state flagships, but who knows.

I believe Cornell is another.

And according to Mike Spivey, it was 12 schools in the end.

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ohpobrecito wrote:UVA Dropped to 169.

http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/news/2 ... f_2016.htm



They dropped class size too, lower than the previous 9 years (last year was lower than the previous 8 )

358 --> 336

They probably could have maintained the LSAT median if they were willing to sacrifice the GPA median. Maybe they shot for the same medians and ran out of 170+ applicants at the end.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby bouleversement » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:17 pm

Guiltily excited here folks.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby 09042014 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:20 pm

I don't understand why everyone is so giddy.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby NYstate » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:25 pm

Desert Fox wrote:I don't understand why everyone is so giddy.

Because the fact other people are fleeing law makes it easier for them to get into schools they couldn't get in a couple of years ago? I don't understand either.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby DrStudMuffin » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:35 pm

NYstate wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I don't understand why everyone is so giddy.

Because the fact other people are fleeing law makes it easier for them to get into schools they couldn't get in a couple of years ago? I don't understand either.


You don't see why this is good news to a law school applicant?

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby NYstate » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:41 pm

DrStudMuffin wrote:
NYstate wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I don't understand why everyone is so giddy.

Because the fact other people are fleeing law makes it easier for them to get into schools they couldn't get in a couple of years ago? I don't understand either.


You don't see why this is good news to a law school applicant?


I can see why people think it is good news, but only if they ignore the underlying reasons why apps have dropped precipitously the past two years. It has to do with LST and the ABA finally publicizing somewhat honest employment and salary data. And that law school is way too expensive. And that biglaw isn't back to hiring anywhere near pre-crash levels and it doesn't look like it will be. And that government hiring and PI hiring largely don't exist or don't pay a decent level even if you are on IBR. Also the uncovering of the school paid fellowship scam may play a role.
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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby hephaestus » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:42 pm

Desert Fox wrote:I don't understand why everyone is so giddy.

I'm excited because I'm hoping some TTTs will close and stop preying on the misinformed.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby 09042014 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:42 pm

NYstate wrote:
DrStudMuffin wrote:
NYstate wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I don't understand why everyone is so giddy.

Because the fact other people are fleeing law makes it easier for them to get into schools they couldn't get in a couple of years ago? I don't understand either.


You don't see why this is good news to a law school applicant?


I can see why people think it is good news, but only if they ignore the underlying reasons why apps have dropped precipitously the past two years. It has to do with finally publicizing somewhat honest employment and salary data. And that law school is way too expensive. And that biglaw isn't back to hiring anywhere near pre-crash levels and it doesn't look like it will be. And that government hiring and PI hiring largely don't exist or don't pay a decent level even if you are on IBR.


Yea but now he can get into UVA instead of Cornell. So it's totes amaz.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby NYstate » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:43 pm

ImNoScar wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I don't understand why everyone is so giddy.

I'm excited because I'm hoping some TTTs will close and stop preying on the misinformed.


I read somewhere, maybe ATL, that Cooley is making up for dropping class size by raising tuition.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby WokeUpInACar » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:45 pm

Meh. I got in with a very significant scholarship to a school I likely would have been rejected from a few cycles ago. This is excellent news for new applicants who understand what they're getting into.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby hephaestus » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:47 pm

NYstate wrote:
ImNoScar wrote:
Desert Fox wrote:I don't understand why everyone is so giddy.

I'm excited because I'm hoping some TTTs will close and stop preying on the misinformed.


I read somewhere, maybe ATL, that Cooley is making up for dropping class size by raising tuition.

Yes they are. By 8 percent or something crazy. They also are considering lowering their standards, which is pretty hilarious when their current median is a 145.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby twenty » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:47 pm

When the masses figure out about PAYE, we're all completely effed.

Fortunately, most people tend to skip past news articles that use math and stuff.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby DrStudMuffin » Wed Aug 21, 2013 3:59 pm

Relax dude. Given that I, along with many others, are still applying regardless of all of the things NYstate mentioned (which are obviously important), it is actually good news for us.

I still wouldn't say I'm "giddy" about it, though.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby Monochromatic Oeuvre » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:25 pm

ohpobrecito wrote:UVA Dropped to 169.

http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/news/2 ... f_2016.htm


Bye bye, NU's 170. Unless someone REALLY screwed up at UVA.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby 09042014 » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:27 pm

Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:
ohpobrecito wrote:UVA Dropped to 169.

http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/news/2 ... f_2016.htm


Bye bye, NU's 170. Unless someone REALLY screwed up at UVA.


NU cut class size, might be the reason they did.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby t-14orbust » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:28 pm

Will lower medians affect employment?

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby hephaestus » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:29 pm

Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:
ohpobrecito wrote:UVA Dropped to 169.

http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/news/2 ... f_2016.htm


Bye bye, NU's 170. Unless someone REALLY screwed up at UVA.

Well they don't have the same 40% in state requirement. That must be a huge challenge for UVA.

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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles

Postby MyNameIsFlynn! » Wed Aug 21, 2013 4:30 pm

Desert Fox wrote:
Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:
ohpobrecito wrote:UVA Dropped to 169.

http://www.law.virginia.edu/html/news/2 ... f_2016.htm


Bye bye, NU's 170. Unless someone REALLY screwed up at UVA.


NU cut class size, might be the reason they did.


UVA "cut" its class size too. Down 22 (6%) and it didn't stop the drop




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