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Re: Isn't It Time?
Vandy's LSAT medians were down, but I don't remember if GPA was or not.
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Re: Isn't It Time?
http://www.law.berkeley.edu/37.htmxJD2017x wrote:Is that a joke?? They were saying on their twitter that apps went up. That has to be a mistake.bouleversement wrote:Berkeley.
3.68/3.81/3.91 -> 3.66/3.78/3.89
163/167/170 -> 166/167/169
Applications down from 7,027 to 5,944. Class size up from 263 to 286.
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Re: Isn't It Time?
Haha way to patronize us... but I fear that you are right.Desert Fox wrote:lol 0Ls
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Maybe they were projected to be up based on figures from last year at the same point in the year (eg January to January comparison before apps closed).xJD2017x wrote:Is that a joke?? They were saying on their twitter that apps went up. That has to be a mistake.bouleversement wrote:Berkeley.
3.68/3.81/3.91 -> 3.66/3.78/3.89
163/167/170 -> 166/167/169
Applications down from 7,027 to 5,944. Class size up from 263 to 286.
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Re: Isn't It Time?
WoW california is BAD. Stanford is letting people off the waitlist like yesterteday as were USC and UCLA of course.Nova wrote:http://www.law.berkeley.edu/37.htmxJD2017x wrote:Is that a joke?? They were saying on their twitter that apps went up. That has to be a mistake.bouleversement wrote:Berkeley.
3.68/3.81/3.91 -> 3.66/3.78/3.89
163/167/170 -> 166/167/169
Applications down from 7,027 to 5,944. Class size up from 263 to 286.
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Re: Isn't It Time?
Especially surprising given Duke's performance.xJD2017x wrote:Is that a joke?? They were saying on their twitter that apps went up. That has to be a mistake.bouleversement wrote:Berkeley.
3.68/3.81/3.91 -> 3.66/3.78/3.89
163/167/170 -> 166/167/169
Applications down from 7,027 to 5,944. Class size up from 263 to 286.
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Re: Isn't It Time?
bouleversement wrote:Especially surprising given Duke's performance.xJD2017x wrote:Is that a joke?? They were saying on their twitter that apps went up. That has to be a mistake.bouleversement wrote:Berkeley.
3.68/3.81/3.91 -> 3.66/3.78/3.89
163/167/170 -> 166/167/169
Applications down from 7,027 to 5,944. Class size up from 263 to 286.
The dean of Duke law was bragging Duke was one of only 7 schools that had increases in apps. I guess Berkeley is not one of them.
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Re: Isn't It Time?
Can someone explain this increase in class size to me? Given the data on the drop in applicants and the drop in high scores, I'm surprised.
Also, with Stanford - who has been withdrawing? Why are they still going to the wait list? Is this more evidence that the top students have other options and decide not to go?
Both of these things are surprising to me.
Also, with Stanford - who has been withdrawing? Why are they still going to the wait list? Is this more evidence that the top students have other options and decide not to go?
Both of these things are surprising to me.
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Re: Isn't It Time?
I think the timing of the WL is kind of a silly thing to be concerned with. Schools work on different timelines and SLS is notorious for being slow.
I am pretty shocked that UCB increased their class size though but they weren't one of the egregious offenders of having too large to handle class size. I bet it was just a slightly larger yield than expected for them this year.
I am pretty shocked that UCB increased their class size though but they weren't one of the egregious offenders of having too large to handle class size. I bet it was just a slightly larger yield than expected for them this year.
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Yeah, the noise of the Stanford wait list admits has been magnified by these recent posts asking for advice. I don't remember them admitting people this late but I haven't really paid attention.sinfiery wrote:I think the timing of the WL is kind of a silly thing to be concerned with. Schools work on different timelines and SLS is notorious for being slow.
I am pretty shocked that UCB increased their class size though but they weren't one of the egregious offenders of having too large to handle class size. I bet it was just a slightly larger yield than expected for them this year.
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Re: Isn't It Time?
Is it the general consensus that HYS will be able to maintain 25th/50th/75th LSAT percentiles?
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Harvard is always bound, to some extent, by what the other two do, so they're in less control of their numbers, but they're still probably doing fine. Yale and Stanford could both easily raise their LSAT medians by two points if they felt like it, so it doesn't really matter for them.bouleversement wrote:Is it the general consensus that HYS will be able to maintain 25th/50th/75th LSAT percentiles?
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When do you guys think UF/ Hastings/Davis/FSU would release this data?
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lol nogottago wrote:do you see harvard's gpa going up?Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:Harvard is always bound, to some extent, by what the other two do, so they're in less control of their numbers, but they're still probably doing fine. Yale and Stanford could both easily raise their LSAT medians by two points if they felt like it, so it doesn't really matter for them.bouleversement wrote:Is it the general consensus that HYS will be able to maintain 25th/50th/75th LSAT percentiles?
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Yes. GPA up, LSAT down, although I suspect H's (unreleased) median in 2012 was actually a 172. Think it will stay at 172 for the c/o 2016.gottago wrote:do you see harvard's gpa going up?Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:Harvard is always bound, to some extent, by what the other two do, so they're in less control of their numbers, but they're still probably doing fine. Yale and Stanford could both easily raise their LSAT medians by two points if they felt like it, so it doesn't really matter for them.bouleversement wrote:Is it the general consensus that HYS will be able to maintain 25th/50th/75th LSAT percentiles?
The number of high scoring test takers (170+) fell off a cliff this year. For a school like H with a class size of 550 and a numbers-driven approach, I suspect they had to compensate by taking more 169s/170s with very high GPAs. 3.9Xs are a dime a dozen; 172+ are not.
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Also, OP or a mod should rename this thread so peeps can actually find it
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http://www.usnews.com/education/best-gr ... edian-lsatMyNameIsFlynn! wrote:Yes. GPA up, LSAT down, although I suspect H's (unreleased) median in 2012 was actually a 172. Think it will stay at 172 for the c/o 2016.gottago wrote:do you see harvard's gpa going up?Monochromatic Oeuvre wrote:Harvard is always bound, to some extent, by what the other two do, so they're in less control of their numbers, but they're still probably doing fine. Yale and Stanford could both easily raise their LSAT medians by two points if they felt like it, so it doesn't really matter for them.bouleversement wrote:Is it the general consensus that HYS will be able to maintain 25th/50th/75th LSAT percentiles?
The number of high scoring test takers (170+) fell off a cliff this year. For a school like H with a class size of 550 and a numbers-driven approach, I suspect they had to compensate by taking more 169s/170s with very high GPAs. 3.9Xs are a dime a dozen; 172+ are not.
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Ah, thanks for the link. I was confused because they only list 25/75 on their website
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Done. I aimed for a general title to allow someone like KevinP to post a more data-heavy "C/O 2016 Medians and Class Sizes" OP after last year's precedent.MyNameIsFlynn! wrote:Also, OP or a mod should rename this thread so peeps can actually find it
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Yes, that would be pretty amazing if Harvard dropped to 172.
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Re: C/O 2016 Class Profiles
Harvard isn't dropping to 172. We saw Harvard lower its GPA floor this cycle to get enough people with 173+.
You heard it here first.
You heard it here first.
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Re: Isn't It Time?
I think this is part of it. I know two people (IRL) who got WL calls from SLS in late July and early August of last year, so it's not exactly unheard of.NYstate wrote:Yeah, the noise of the Stanford wait list admits has been magnified by these recent posts asking for advice. I don't remember them admitting people this late but I haven't really paid attention.sinfiery wrote:I think the timing of the WL is kind of a silly thing to be concerned with. Schools work on different timelines and SLS is notorious for being slow.
I am pretty shocked that UCB increased their class size though but they weren't one of the egregious offenders of having too large to handle class size. I bet it was just a slightly larger yield than expected for them this year.
Exactly. Harvard wasn't Hoovering up 3.6x/175+ applicants for nothing. They'll hold their 173.Lavitz wrote:Harvard isn't dropping to 172. We saw Harvard lower its GPA floor this cycle to get enough people with 173+.
You heard it here first.
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If only there were an infinite supply of 173+ applicants...Ti Malice wrote:Exactly. Harvard wasn't Hoovering up 3.6x/175+ applicants for nothing. They'll hold their 173.
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They might well run out someday, but letting their once pretty firm 3.7 GPA floor for non-URMs drop to a less firm 3.6 -- with only rejecting outright a small portion of their 3.55-3.59/175+ applicants -- is right in line with what you'd expect them to need to do to maintain their 173.bouleversement wrote:If only there were an infinite supply of 173+ applicants...Ti Malice wrote:Exactly. Harvard wasn't Hoovering up 3.6x/175+ applicants for nothing. They'll hold their 173.
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