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non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:54 pm
by gopats
The tuition at southern california institute of law is dirt cheep, but bar passage and employment rates are low, thoughts?

Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:55 pm
by hephaestus
Don't go. Plain and simple.

Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:57 pm
by t-14orbust
Seeing so many threads like this makes me want to start my own lawl school.

Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:00 pm
by shifty_eyed
The answer is clearly NO, and here's why: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=207726

This thread has lots of information about one of those schools (Monterrey College of Law), and I imagine the discussion applies to all nonABA/CA only schools. Even the dean of MCL can't make a convincing argument for it.

Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:05 pm
by timbs4339
Do you have a job lined up or do you have a large amount of money and a desire to start your own firm? If not, then no.

Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:06 pm
by twenty
Non-accredited/CA bar accredited law schools are viable (read: not necessarily worth it) for an incredibly small portion of the population. In theory, these people are (all the above):

1) Extremely bad at the LSAT. Like, severe dyslexia that even accommodations won't solve.
2) Are 110% guaranteed a law job. This would be like, if your dad is the managing partner at a 10-person firm.
3) You want nothing more out of life than to be in "that job."
4) You're okay with the idea of being permanently locked out of government, military, out of state practice, and potentially having to do four years of school instead of three.
5) Every other law school you applied to gave you terrible/no acceptances.
6) The start-to-finish cost is less than 20k.

Even if every one of those things was true, you'd still probably be better off going to your real estate broker's license or paralegal certificate.

Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:06 pm
by twenty
t-14orbust wrote:Seeing so many threads like this makes me want to start my own lawl school.


Also, +1 to this.

Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:15 pm
by gopats
Thanks everyone for replying! now i know not to waist my time applying there and actually spend time looking into and applying to real law schools, I now realize how bad this idea was haha!

Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:19 pm
by t-14orbust
gopats wrote:Thanks everyone for replying! now i know not to waist my time applying there and actually spend time looking into and applying to real law schools, I now realize how bad this idea was haha!


The hip thing to do is get your LSAT as high as possible, for a real leg up on the competition.

This website pants the picture well: http://www.lawschooltransparency.com

Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:40 pm
by californiauser
gopats wrote:Thanks everyone for replying! now i know not to waist my time applying there and actually spend time looking into and applying to real law schools, I now realize how bad this idea was haha!


consider learning a trade

Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:53 pm
by timbs4339
gopats wrote:Thanks everyone for replying! now i know not to waist my time applying there and actually spend time looking into and applying to real law schools, I now realize how bad this idea was haha!


TIP: A lot of "real law schools" (accredited) are just as shitty as the unaccrediteds, only they'll leave you in more debt.

Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:22 pm
by MoMettaMonk
The only thing I'd add to TwentyPercentMore's post is that the person could be an older professional with EXTREMELY strong ties to the community where the Cal Bar accredited school is, and getting a JD (any JD) will somehow allow them to move to a higher position from where they are now, as long as that position is still in the community that they currently reside. If you are this person, all of TPM's other qualifications still apply to going to one of these places.

Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:21 am
by PRgradBYU
gopats wrote:The tuition at southern california institute of law is dirt cheep, but bar passage and employment rates are low, thoughts?


Doesn't matter how cheap it is. If you eventually want a job as a lawyer, don't attend law school there.

Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:30 am
by twenty
The other thing you have to factor in is the time spent. So you spent four years on a fairly worthless degree and now you can't pass the bar. It almost doesn't matter if it's free at that point.

If you're going to a non ABA/CBA school, at least go to one that's cheaper and has a better bar passage rate.

Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:52 am
by Dr. Dre
I met a non ABA-graduate once, it took her 5 tries until she finally passed the bar. Gotta give A for effort and perseverance.

Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:20 pm
by NYC2012
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Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:34 am
by 20160810
I sat next to a dude from Lincoln Law School at the bar. That bro had about a 15 percent shot at passing.

Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:36 am
by Dr. Dre
SBL wrote:I sat next to a dude from Lincoln Law School at the bar. That bro had about a 15 percent shot at passing.


i hate that law school. I met a graduate from there and she was mean and pretentious as fuck

Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Posted: Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:50 am
by bhan87