non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

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non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Postby gopats » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:54 pm

The tuition at southern california institute of law is dirt cheep, but bar passage and employment rates are low, thoughts?

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Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Postby hephaestus » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:55 pm

Don't go. Plain and simple.

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Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Postby t-14orbust » Wed Aug 14, 2013 5:57 pm

Seeing so many threads like this makes me want to start my own lawl school.

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Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Postby shifty_eyed » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:00 pm

The answer is clearly NO, and here's why: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=207726

This thread has lots of information about one of those schools (Monterrey College of Law), and I imagine the discussion applies to all nonABA/CA only schools. Even the dean of MCL can't make a convincing argument for it.

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Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Postby timbs4339 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:05 pm

Do you have a job lined up or do you have a large amount of money and a desire to start your own firm? If not, then no.

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Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Postby twenty » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:06 pm

Non-accredited/CA bar accredited law schools are viable (read: not necessarily worth it) for an incredibly small portion of the population. In theory, these people are (all the above):

1) Extremely bad at the LSAT. Like, severe dyslexia that even accommodations won't solve.
2) Are 110% guaranteed a law job. This would be like, if your dad is the managing partner at a 10-person firm.
3) You want nothing more out of life than to be in "that job."
4) You're okay with the idea of being permanently locked out of government, military, out of state practice, and potentially having to do four years of school instead of three.
5) Every other law school you applied to gave you terrible/no acceptances.
6) The start-to-finish cost is less than 20k.

Even if every one of those things was true, you'd still probably be better off going to your real estate broker's license or paralegal certificate.

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Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Postby twenty » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:06 pm

t-14orbust wrote:Seeing so many threads like this makes me want to start my own lawl school.


Also, +1 to this.

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Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Postby gopats » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:15 pm

Thanks everyone for replying! now i know not to waist my time applying there and actually spend time looking into and applying to real law schools, I now realize how bad this idea was haha!

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Postby t-14orbust » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:19 pm

gopats wrote:Thanks everyone for replying! now i know not to waist my time applying there and actually spend time looking into and applying to real law schools, I now realize how bad this idea was haha!


The hip thing to do is get your LSAT as high as possible, for a real leg up on the competition.

This website pants the picture well: http://www.lawschooltransparency.com
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Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Postby californiauser » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:40 pm

gopats wrote:Thanks everyone for replying! now i know not to waist my time applying there and actually spend time looking into and applying to real law schools, I now realize how bad this idea was haha!


consider learning a trade

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Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Postby timbs4339 » Wed Aug 14, 2013 6:53 pm

gopats wrote:Thanks everyone for replying! now i know not to waist my time applying there and actually spend time looking into and applying to real law schools, I now realize how bad this idea was haha!


TIP: A lot of "real law schools" (accredited) are just as shitty as the unaccrediteds, only they'll leave you in more debt.

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Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Postby MoMettaMonk » Wed Aug 14, 2013 7:22 pm

The only thing I'd add to TwentyPercentMore's post is that the person could be an older professional with EXTREMELY strong ties to the community where the Cal Bar accredited school is, and getting a JD (any JD) will somehow allow them to move to a higher position from where they are now, as long as that position is still in the community that they currently reside. If you are this person, all of TPM's other qualifications still apply to going to one of these places.

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Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Postby PRgradBYU » Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:21 am

gopats wrote:The tuition at southern california institute of law is dirt cheep, but bar passage and employment rates are low, thoughts?


Doesn't matter how cheap it is. If you eventually want a job as a lawyer, don't attend law school there.

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Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Postby twenty » Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:30 am

The other thing you have to factor in is the time spent. So you spent four years on a fairly worthless degree and now you can't pass the bar. It almost doesn't matter if it's free at that point.

If you're going to a non ABA/CBA school, at least go to one that's cheaper and has a better bar passage rate.

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Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Postby Dr. Dre » Thu Aug 15, 2013 7:52 am

I met a non ABA-graduate once, it took her 5 tries until she finally passed the bar. Gotta give A for effort and perseverance.

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Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Postby NYC2012 » Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:20 pm

californiauser wrote:
gopats wrote:Thanks everyone for replying! now i know not to waist my time applying there and actually spend time looking into and applying to real law schools, I now realize how bad this idea was haha!


consider learning a trade


Lolz

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Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Postby 20160810 » Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:34 am

I sat next to a dude from Lincoln Law School at the bar. That bro had about a 15 percent shot at passing.

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Re: non ABA/california bar accredited law schools, worth it?

Postby Dr. Dre » Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:36 am

SBL wrote:I sat next to a dude from Lincoln Law School at the bar. That bro had about a 15 percent shot at passing.


i hate that law school. I met a graduate from there and she was mean and pretentious as fuck

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