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I think it generally falls in between full and half because most get at least some aid from YSH when making these decisions.ArtistOfManliness wrote:It's kind of a toss up between YSH and fully scholly at CCN. Only a half scholly? YSH every time.
not if you have 1/4 mil in the banksinfiery wrote:I think it generally falls in between full and half because most get at least some aid from YSH when making these decisions.ArtistOfManliness wrote:It's kind of a toss up between YSH and fully scholly at CCN. Only a half scholly? YSH every time.
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Penn kids dont have a "better shot" at biglaw than Chicago or Columbia students. I'd say equal. NLJ250 actuals are a poor judge of potential, look at EIP/OCI success rate and you'll see which candidates can get their 2L SAs when they try for them (%85-90, Penn is no higher).Clearly wrote:obviously goal dependent. I actually think ccn is the worst option unless you lump P with it (which from an outcome perspective it should be). Either you want some weird prestigious gig that you can only get from hys, or you want biglaw, which you have a better shot at from Penn than you do from 2 of the 3 of CCN, at a 50%, plus interest, discount...on the other hand, excluding P, m and v would change my choice significantly.
You got the gist of what I was saying, a comparable shot at biglaw would have been more accurate. Still stand by my hypo that I'd take Penn full over others.jbagelboy wrote:Penn kids dont have a "better shot" at biglaw than Chicago or Columbia students. I'd say equal. NLJ250 actuals are a poor judge of potential, look at EIP/OCI success rate and you'll see which candidates can get their 2L SAs when they try for them (%85-90, Penn is no higher).Clearly wrote:obviously goal dependent. I actually think ccn is the worst option unless you lump P with it (which from an outcome perspective it should be). Either you want some weird prestigious gig that you can only get from hys, or you want biglaw, which you have a better shot at from Penn than you do from 2 of the 3 of CCN, at a 50%, plus interest, discount...on the other hand, excluding P, m and v would change my choice significantly.
This interests me greatly. Is there any way to find these for the other top schools?jbagelboy wrote:Penn kids dont have a "better shot" at biglaw than Chicago or Columbia students. I'd say equal. NLJ250 actuals are a poor judge of potential, look at EIP/OCI success rate and you'll see which candidates can get their 2L SAs when they try for them (%85-90, Penn is no higher).Clearly wrote:obviously goal dependent. I actually think ccn is the worst option unless you lump P with it (which from an outcome perspective it should be). Either you want some weird prestigious gig that you can only get from hys, or you want biglaw, which you have a better shot at from Penn than you do from 2 of the 3 of CCN, at a 50%, plus interest, discount...on the other hand, excluding P, m and v would change my choice significantly.
thisjselson wrote:Non-prestigious, non-biglaw/DC without ties: MVP
Any biglaw/Philly without ties: P
V10 biglaw/Chicago without ties: CCN
Prestigious non-biglaw/Boston/Cali/DC without ties: HYS
Why is UMich closer to NU then VB?Regulus wrote:Here are a couple of charts that I've made in my free time that might prove slightly useful (I didn't make the one for 2011; that was made by someone else here on TLS):
Biglaw + AIII
Class of 2012 Employment Data
Class of 2011 Employment Data
Based on their employment statistics these past couple of years, I would put UMichigan closer to NU and GULC as far as outcomes go instead of Virginia and Berkeley.
Also, as was previously mentioned, I think that UPenn has the "highest" biglaw rate just because kids at HYSCCN are self-selecting out into other forms of employment, and not because UPenn actually has better biglaw placement power than these other schools.
If Duke and Michigan "full ride" are the named scholarships (Mordecai ect), Id take those over Deans at Cornell or $50K at NU/UVA, both for the name recognition and the perks.paglababa wrote:Why is UMich closer to NU then VB?Regulus wrote:Here are a couple of charts that I've made in my free time that might prove slightly useful (I didn't make the one for 2011; that was made by someone else here on TLS):
Biglaw + AIII
Class of 2012 Employment Data
Class of 2011 Employment Data
Based on their employment statistics these past couple of years, I would put UMichigan closer to NU and GULC as far as outcomes go instead of Virginia and Berkeley.
Also, as was previously mentioned, I think that UPenn has the "highest" biglaw rate just because kids at HYSCCN are self-selecting out into other forms of employment, and not because UPenn actually has better biglaw placement power than these other schools.
Also, based on % of kids who got biglaw, would someone be better off going to Cornell or NU if they want big law in NYC/Chicago compared to some of MVD, assuming full ride at all 5 schools?
NU and GULC don't belong in the same sentence for biglaw outcomes, WTFRegulus wrote:Here are a couple of charts that I've made in my free time that might prove slightly useful (I didn't make the one for 2011; that was made by someone else here on TLS):
Biglaw + AIII
Class of 2012 Employment Data
Class of 2011 Employment Data
Based on their employment statistics these past couple of years, I would put UMichigan closer to NU and GULC as far as outcomes go instead of Virginia and Berkeley.
Also, as was previously mentioned, I think that UPenn has the "highest" biglaw rate just because kids at HYSCCN are self-selecting out into other forms of employment, and not because UPenn actually has better biglaw placement power than these other schools.
Shhhh. It's okay. It's okay.IAFG wrote:NU and GULC don't belong in the same sentence for biglaw outcomes, WTFRegulus wrote:Here are a couple of charts that I've made in my free time that might prove slightly useful (I didn't make the one for 2011; that was made by someone else here on TLS):
Biglaw + AIII
Class of 2012 Employment Data
Class of 2011 Employment Data
Based on their employment statistics these past couple of years, I would put UMichigan closer to NU and GULC as far as outcomes go instead of Virginia and Berkeley.
Also, as was previously mentioned, I think that UPenn has the "highest" biglaw rate just because kids at HYSCCN are self-selecting out into other forms of employment, and not because UPenn actually has better biglaw placement power than these other schools.
Hadn't thought about dat prestige.jbagelboy wrote:If Duke and Michigan "full ride" are the named scholarships (Mordecai ect), Id take those over Deans at Cornell or $50K at NU/UVA, both for the name recognition and the perks.paglababa wrote:Why is UMich closer to NU then VB?Regulus wrote:Here are a couple of charts that I've made in my free time that might prove slightly useful (I didn't make the one for 2011; that was made by someone else here on TLS):
Biglaw + AIII
Class of 2012 Employment Data
Class of 2011 Employment Data
Based on their employment statistics these past couple of years, I would put UMichigan closer to NU and GULC as far as outcomes go instead of Virginia and Berkeley.
Also, as was previously mentioned, I think that UPenn has the "highest" biglaw rate just because kids at HYSCCN are self-selecting out into other forms of employment, and not because UPenn actually has better biglaw placement power than these other schools.
Also, based on % of kids who got biglaw, would someone be better off going to Cornell or NU if they want big law in NYC/Chicago compared to some of MVD, assuming full ride at all 5 schools?