timbs4339 wrote:moshei24 wrote:timbs4339 wrote:I'm not sure whether that's a possible $8500 per year or one-time. It looks like it is annually. If it's one-time, the COA figure for NYU seems a bit low since tuition+fees+books are 57K. If it's one-time, you'll be looking at about 170K all said and done from NYU (that's going to be 200K with interest and origination fee), and probably 60K from Georgetown.
125K is a lot different from 200K.
Additionally, if you want to do criminal defense and make a lot of money, it's a good idea to start out in biglaw if you don't want to work your way up in the DAs office and can't get DOJ. White collar practice is big money, but if you want to do more "blue collar" crime, you can move from there into a prosecutor's job and eventually into a boutique criminal firm.
It would be yearly, and I'm hoping my grandparents would be willing to give me a little money as an interest free loan. That would reduce my total costs.
What do you mean by moving to a prosecutor job and then to a criminal firm? I can't just go from BigLaw straight to a criminal law firm if I choose to do blue collar?
Let's say I choose to do litigation. What are my options there?
I think you're still underestimate the price, even without considering the interest, but including SA position and not including interest 125,000 sounds about right. Probably more like 150 at the end of it all.
You could go straight to a small crim defense boutique, but I think the more common route is to go to a DA or USAO (US Attorney Office) to get the trial experience that you will probably never get in biglaw outside of pro bono. If you tough it out in a prosecutor's office you also might be able to go back to a firm as a partner in general lit or white collar defense.
Remember that if you leave biglaw, it is going to take you a long time to see that kind of money, if you ever see it. The market for upscale crim defense work is exceedingly small. Take this guy, Gerald Shargel, thought of as maybe one of the best trial lawyers alive and one of the top criminal lawyers in NYC. His office consisted of himself, three associates, and a paralegal.
http://blogs.wsj.com/law/2013/06/10/def ... to-biglaw/
Its worth noting that while I disagree with nothing above, many of these trajectories are very uncertain and excessively ambitious, such as going from a few years at a DA or district prosecution to partner at a well paying crim defense firm, even out of nyu. Its far from a certain track, and when timbs says these are options, while I know anecdotally the DA/PD -> partner route has occurred, I would qualify to say its uncommon and the # of positions makes it extremely unlikely.