Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

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Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby amollica » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:06 pm

How much does the schools ranking really matter?
I was accepted to FSU (48), Penn State (64), FIU (113), New York Law School (146), and Nova (165).
Tuition Costs are: FIU $19,000; FSU $20,000; Nova $35,000; Penn State $31,000 (41,000 less $10,000 renewable scholarship) and NYLS $13,000 ($48,000 less $35,000 renewable scholarship)
My undergraduate gpa was 2.79 and my first/only LSAT score was 160.

I am really at a loss as to which school to choose. If ranking is really that important then FSU is the obvious choice but I really was not a fan of Tallahassee. Nova and FIU are in the Ft Lauderdale/Miami area where my parents live so my additional costs such as rent costs would be non-existent. NYLS has a horrible ranking but with the scholarship they are offering it would cut down a great deal on my student loans.
Help.

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby Monochromatic Oeuvre » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:11 pm

Retake the LSAT. Don't go to any of those schools.

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby mr.hands » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:13 pm

amollica wrote:How much does the schools ranking really matter?
I was accepted to FSU (48), Penn State (64), FIU (113), New York Law School (146), and Nova (165).
Tuition Costs are: FIU $19,000; FSU $20,000; Nova $35,000; Penn State $31,000 (41,000 less $10,000 renewable scholarship) and NYLS $13,000 ($48,000 less $35,000 renewable scholarship)
My undergraduate gpa was 2.79 and my first/only LSAT score was 160.

I am really at a loss as to which school to choose. If ranking is really that important then FSU is the obvious choice but I really was not a fan of Tallahassee. Nova and FIU are in the Ft Lauderdale/Miami area where my parents live so my additional costs such as rent costs would be non-existent. NYLS has a horrible ranking but with the scholarship they are offering it would cut down a great deal on my student loans.
Help.


Don't go to any of these schools, especially NYLS.

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby hephaestus » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:16 pm

Retake or don't go.

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby jselson » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:41 pm

TCR is retake or don't go, but I don't think FSU w/ ties is a horrible decision like the others, but only if you want to work in FL (esp govt). Every other school you list is an immediate never go.

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby bananapeanutbutter » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:46 pm

I can't believe nyls is 48k. I have an old friend who was waitlisted, then admitted there. I assume he's paying sticker. Wow, that's a ton of debt for those job prospects.

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby sublime » Sat Jun 01, 2013 1:58 pm

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby jbagelboy » Sat Jun 01, 2013 2:07 pm

What matters is that you dont attend NYLS. Its a giant scam that must close.

Of the schools you mentioned, FSU gives you the best fighting chance at a job for reasonable COA, albeit still not a great one

You might think with a 2.8 GPA your basically limited to these sorts of options. Think again. You can crack T25 or even T20 with a scholarship if your LSAT is 168+. If you are determined to practice in Florida, you could open up UF or maybe Emory (but that might be pricy). My advice to first time takers who score under 170 is pretty consistently try again.

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby sinfiery » Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:02 pm

Nov stands for retaking in October and reapplying? Do that.

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby nebula666 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:11 pm

It's not a great option but if you refuse to retake or not go I'd take FIU for $60k total. Drop out if you don't do well the first semester/year.

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby Justin Genious » Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:19 pm

Penn St for that Ivy League swag

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby jbagelboy » Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:20 pm

Justin Genious wrote:Penn St for that Ivy League swag


This is a confused post

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby willwilliams1334 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:28 pm

jbagelboy wrote:
Justin Genious wrote:Penn St for that Ivy League swag


This is a confused post


no hes trolling penn

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby jselson » Sat Jun 01, 2013 3:37 pm

Justin Genious wrote:Penn St for that Ivy League swag


This joke should be a bannable offense.

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby PRgradBYU » Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:10 pm

Justin Genious wrote:Penn St for that Ivy League swag


Your joke is bad and you should feel bad.

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby californiauser » Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:15 pm

Flame. No one capable of finding this forum, creating a username, and activating it through email is this misinformed.

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:18 pm

I think that with your GPA you're not going to be able to break much higher than FSU without a stellar LSAT. If you want to practice in FL I'd go to FSU, if not retake and reapply.

I don't recommend any of the other schools on your list.


ETA:
On lstscorereports.com,

FSU:65% employed
FIU:56
Penn state: 56
NYLS: 39

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby rmorris87 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 4:59 pm

For your purposes, the answer is essentially no. All the schools you listed are absolute shit. Granted, according to official rankings, one may be "ranked" 125 and another 170, but in the end nobody really cares because nobody will ever get a job from any of these schools anyway.

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby untar614 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:01 pm

What would the COA be at FSU? Given that ur from florida, that one might be ok if u want a local government job and the COA is no more than 75k. But no to the others.

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby nebula666 » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:18 pm

rmorris87 wrote:For your purposes, the answer is essentially no. All the schools you listed are absolute shit. Granted, according to official rankings, one may be "ranked" 125 and another 170, but in the end nobody really cares because nobody will ever get a job from any of these schools anyway.


FSU is absolute shit if you want to work in Florida? Really?

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby sinfiery » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:24 pm

Nov stands for Nova, huh. Yeah, I guess it comes down to FIU or FSU here. I'd pick FIU because COL on loans versus zero COL cost is a large part of COA.

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby Balthy » Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:27 pm

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:I think that with your GPA you're not going to be able to break much higher than FSU without a stellar LSAT. If you want to practice in FL I'd go to FSU, if not retake and reapply.

I don't recommend any of the other schools on your list.


ETA:
On lstscorereports.com,

FSU:65% employed
FIU:56
Penn state: 56
NYLS: 39



Hey bro, this is irrelevant if OP is planning on being #1 in his class. You should know better.

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Re: Does school ranking matter? FSU v FIU v Penn St v NYLS v Nov

Postby DaRascal » Sat Jun 01, 2013 6:05 pm

Florida State is a decent school. It wouldn't be T1 if it wasn't. Don't listen to the haters! Some of those other schools like NYLS and Nova aren't good but a top 50 law school can always be worth it I think. :wink:




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