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UIUC
27
87%
Notre Dame
4
13%
 
Total votes: 31

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Postby abduction12 » Wed May 22, 2013 11:48 am

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Re: UIUC (50% In-State) vs. Notre Dame (Sticker)

Postby rad lulz » Wed May 22, 2013 12:11 pm

How much debt will you take on for each. Include accumulated interest

Your description of cost is confusing
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Postby jbagelboy » Wed May 22, 2013 12:18 pm

I voted UIUC (If you are OK working in Cook County then ND isn't worth the extra cash), although I'd be interested to find out what you mean by "maxed out on retakes"

did you enjoy south korea? sounds like a cool experience.

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Re: UIUC (50% In-State) vs. Notre Dame (Sticker)

Postby hephaestus » Wed May 22, 2013 12:19 pm

UIUC or don't go. Also that seems like a low COA for ND.

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Re: UIUC (50% In-State) vs. Notre Dame (Sticker)

Postby jbagelboy » Wed May 22, 2013 12:39 pm

abduction12 wrote:
jbagelboy wrote:I voted UIUC (If you are OK working in Cook County then ND isn't worth the extra cash), although I'd be interested to find out what you mean by "maxed out on retakes"

did you enjoy south korea? sounds like a cool experience.


I just mean that I've taken it three times and would have to wait until October 2014 to take it again, which I'm not willing to do.

Working in Korea was pretty amazing, fell in love with the place.


Yea; my father worked in korea for a year after college teaching english. I considered it after UG but decided to work in consulting instead ;/

I still go to k-town for AYCE chadol/galbi and kimchi jjigae every other weekend w/ college friends tho. I imagine its much better out there tho

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Re: UIUC (50% In-State) vs. Notre Dame (Sticker)

Postby 09042014 » Wed May 22, 2013 12:41 pm

They are peer schools and one is half the cost of the other. It's not even a question. Illinois.

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Re: UIUC (50% In-State) vs. Notre Dame (Sticker)

Postby PRgradBYU » Wed May 22, 2013 1:18 pm

UIUC. Going to ND at sticker is inadvisable.

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Re: UIUC (50% In-State) vs. Notre Dame (Sticker)

Postby rad lulz » Wed May 22, 2013 1:25 pm

Desert Fox wrote:They are peer schools and one is half the cost of the other. It's not even a question. Illinois.

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Re: UIUC (50% In-State) vs. Notre Dame (Sticker)

Postby rad lulz » Wed May 22, 2013 1:26 pm

Also I doubt anyone in Korea knows what an Illinois is but I could be wrong

Any reason you don't want to just get another job in Korea now

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Re: UIUC (50% In-State) vs. Notre Dame (Sticker)

Postby jbagelboy » Wed May 22, 2013 1:42 pm

rad lulz wrote:Also I doubt anyone in Korea knows what an Illinois is but I could be wrong

Any reason you don't want to just get another job in Korea now


rad brings a key point to mind.. if you want to work internationally, its really T14 or bust. Maybe UCLA has some professional cred in China.

These big midwestern schools won't get you employed in korea (unless you already have a standing offer, of course); you will have to work in Chicago for a while and gain recognition as an expert in both your area of law and korean business/law, and draw heavily on your contacts to lateral out there years later

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Re: UIUC (50% In-State) vs. Notre Dame (Sticker)

Postby 09042014 » Wed May 22, 2013 1:43 pm

rad lulz wrote:Also I doubt anyone in Korea knows what an Illinois is but I could be wrong

Any reason you don't want to just get another job in Korea now


And I doubt there area bunch of Irish Catholics circlejerking over Notre Dame there either. Doing US legal work in SK is a retarded plan OP.

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Postby 20141023 » Thu May 23, 2013 1:00 am

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Re: UIUC (50% In-State) vs. Notre Dame (Sticker)

Postby hukchobo » Thu May 23, 2013 5:17 am

SK's legal market will change significantly starting 2017 so there is a future for US lawyers. Although not nearly as bright as HK or Singapore. Squire Sanders DLA Omelveny and a few other big law firms have set up shop there but wont be doing a lot business until 2017 when the FTA thing regarding foreign law firms kicks in. But as for who theyll hire and stuff like that I dont have the smallest idea.

OP if you are Korean and have a visa where youre allowed to work wherever you want (eg F4) you can still get a job from uiuc although itd most likely be in house. I know quite a few ppl who went to T2 law schools working in house for companies like SK Hyundai NHN big4 (tax law) etc (all Korean citizens)

Ive worked in Korea for a bit as well in consulting and my entire family + friend network is there and i can say for fact that most employers are familiar with the school albeit for their engineering program rather than their law school. However if you want biglaw like K&J L&K etc you pretty much need t14. And even then its pretty hard unless you have ties.

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Re: UIUC (50% In-State) vs. Notre Dame (Sticker)

Postby illiniguy1551 » Thu May 23, 2013 10:59 am

You should probably negotiate with UIUC over the next week. I got rejected to ND, and was accepted to UIUC with 50%, and I managed to get UIUC's scholarship up to 75% tuition. I think they may be hurting for LSAT scores, take advantage!

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Re: UIUC (50% In-State) vs. Notre Dame (Sticker)

Postby Eruannon » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:31 pm

Just graduated from UIUC and enjoyed my time there. Even though it has recently dropped in the rankings, the quality of the tenured faculty at the school is on par with, and perhaps exceeds, ND, WUSTL, and IUB (E.G, Kurt Lash, Michael Moore, Charles Tabb, Suja Thomas, Andrew Leipold). While faculty quality doesn't outweigh post-grad job prospects, the job prospects at Illinois are the same as ND, and the other schools mentioned. Also, Champaign is an extremely affordable town, and there are plenty of bars, restaurants, and a growing art/music scene (the CU-Art Theater recently became a co-op, Ebertfest is held annually as is the Pygmallion music festival).

The school has also recently introduced a post-grad fellowship program which allows students to work at ANY government/PD/DA office and get paid 2k/month for 12 months. I know many of my peers that have found employment at hard to break into offices (which they expect will turn into full-employment offers) because of this program. Additionally the school offers a strong LRAP program for those that are interested in government/PI employment.

I know you are locked into your decision now, but don't have any second thoughts about Illinois, I think you will find your experience to be a positive one. Good luck, and if you have any questions feel free to PM me!

**EDIT** The school also has a large LLM program with many lawyers attending from East Asian countries. The students are predominantly Chinese nationals, so I am not sure if this will help with your networking prospects, but I know for a fact that at least some of the administrators at Illinois are familiar with East Asian employers. You may want to reach out to Dean Charlotte Ku when you arrive this Fall.

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Re: UIUC (50% In-State) vs. Notre Dame (Sticker)

Postby bearsfan23 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 5:57 pm

Given that they are peer schools, there is no reason to choose ND over UIUC given the cost difference. If it were my decision, I'd choose UIUC over ND even at equal price, just cause South Bend is a pretty miserable place.

You mentioned the school's reputations. UIUC is a pretty respected school - I'd bet internationally, esp w/regards to Asia it actually has the better name rec given its engineering programs. Not that that really matters for law school.

Unless you have a really compelling reason to choose ND that you haven't listed - I'd go with UIUC




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