Columbia vs. NYU vs. Penn

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Columbia vs Penn vs NYU

Penn COA - $148,948
41
41%
NYU COA - 153,102
15
15%
Columbia COA - 161,986
45
45%
 
Total votes: 101

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU vs. Penn

Postby SportsFan » Wed May 08, 2013 10:34 am

Bronck wrote:
SportsFan wrote:
Bronck wrote:^

I mean, the conservative estimate (intentional high-end estimation for class size and participants) for CLS EIP is that 27% of participants accepted offers with V10 firms, so I'd say it's a pretty healthy amount.

I can PM you more tomorrow if you're curious, but from the very limited information I have, I think it's around 15-20% going to the V10 from Penn. So probably around a 10% difference, which is offset because of the amount of people we place in Philly biglaw.


Cool, I'd actually be interested in seeing what stats you have.

Just PM'd ya.

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU vs. Penn

Postby SportsFan » Wed May 08, 2013 3:07 pm

For anyone wondering, it seems theres about a 9% V10 placement difference between Penn and Columbia (27% vs. ~18%). Makes sense to me. As I mentioned in a PM to Bronck, it could also be said that only about half of Penn's class goes to NYC and DC (where the V10 are clustered) while its more like 3/4 of Columbia's class thats in NYC and DC, so maybe self-selection also plays a small part in this difference. But I think we've basically confirmed that the supposed V10 placement advantage of Columbia (and NYU, and maybe Chicago too?) is real, but (IMO) not enormous, and not really a reason to pick 1 school over the other.

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU vs. Penn

Postby KingFish » Wed May 08, 2013 3:10 pm

SportsFan wrote:For anyone wondering, it seems theres about a 9% V10 placement difference between Penn and Columbia (27% vs. ~18%). Makes sense to me. As I mentioned in a PM to Bronck, it could also be said that only about half of Penn's class goes to NYC and DC (where the V10 are clustered) while its more like 3/4 of Columbia's class thats in NYC and DC, so maybe self-selection also plays a small part in this difference. But I think we've basically confirmed that the supposed V10 placement advantage of Columbia (and NYU, and maybe Chicago too?) is real, but (IMO) not enormous, and not really a reason to pick 1 school over the other.

18/27 = 66%? CLS places 66% more EIP participants into the V10, right? Am I crazy?

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU vs. Penn

Postby sinfiery » Wed May 08, 2013 3:17 pm

That is a big plus for Penn (for some). Going through v5 associates law schools didn't paint that picture but I'll be the first to admit I was very lazy about it. Also, this analysis had me thinking otherwise.
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=207180&p=6626613&hilit=vault#p6626613


I wish this data was available to the masses.

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU vs. Penn

Postby izha » Wed May 08, 2013 4:28 pm

KingFish wrote:
SportsFan wrote:For anyone wondering, it seems theres about a 9% V10 placement difference between Penn and Columbia (27% vs. ~18%). Makes sense to me. As I mentioned in a PM to Bronck, it could also be said that only about half of Penn's class goes to NYC and DC (where the V10 are clustered) while its more like 3/4 of Columbia's class thats in NYC and DC, so maybe self-selection also plays a small part in this difference. But I think we've basically confirmed that the supposed V10 placement advantage of Columbia (and NYU, and maybe Chicago too?) is real, but (IMO) not enormous, and not really a reason to pick 1 school over the other.

18/27 = 66%? CLS places 66% more EIP participants into the V10, right? Am I crazy?

Probably you are just very bad at math.

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU vs. Penn

Postby JamesDean1955 » Wed May 08, 2013 4:32 pm

KingFish wrote:
SportsFan wrote:For anyone wondering, it seems theres about a 9% V10 placement difference between Penn and Columbia (27% vs. ~18%). Makes sense to me. As I mentioned in a PM to Bronck, it could also be said that only about half of Penn's class goes to NYC and DC (where the V10 are clustered) while its more like 3/4 of Columbia's class thats in NYC and DC, so maybe self-selection also plays a small part in this difference. But I think we've basically confirmed that the supposed V10 placement advantage of Columbia (and NYU, and maybe Chicago too?) is real, but (IMO) not enormous, and not really a reason to pick 1 school over the other.

18/27 = 66%? CLS places 66% more EIP participants into the V10, right? Am I crazy?


No dude you're doing it all wrong, it's 27-18 / 18 = 50%. CLS places 50% more. Duh.

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Re: Columbia vs. NYU vs. Penn

Postby KingFish » Wed May 08, 2013 9:47 pm

JamesDean1955 wrote:
KingFish wrote:
SportsFan wrote:For anyone wondering, it seems theres about a 9% V10 placement difference between Penn and Columbia (27% vs. ~18%). Makes sense to me. As I mentioned in a PM to Bronck, it could also be said that only about half of Penn's class goes to NYC and DC (where the V10 are clustered) while its more like 3/4 of Columbia's class thats in NYC and DC, so maybe self-selection also plays a small part in this difference. But I think we've basically confirmed that the supposed V10 placement advantage of Columbia (and NYU, and maybe Chicago too?) is real, but (IMO) not enormous, and not really a reason to pick 1 school over the other.

18/27 = 66%? CLS places 66% more EIP participants into the V10, right? Am I crazy?


No dude you're doing it all wrong, it's 27-18 / 18 = 50%. CLS places 50% more. Duh.

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