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GW v. BC v. Fordham v. Temple

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:24 pm
by skittles20
GW - 32k/year scholarship
BC - 30k/year scholarship
Fordham - 15k/year scholarship
Temple - 15k/ year scholarship (in state tuition is 20k)
I think all are 2.0 stips or something like that, nothing that sounded hard to keep

-Stats: 167/3.6(ivy undergrad)/M - maxed out on lsat attempts, have already taken 2 years off
-Work at midsize firm in NYC now through friend of family, think i could get a job here but obviously no guarantees, starting salary is around 130
-Parents are lawyers with lots of connections in Philadelphia area
-Absolutely no idea where I want to practice - open to living anywhere for law school - like everyone else, i'd obviously like as many opportunities and as much flexibility as possible after law school (please save the "well then don't go with these options") - paying for law school myself through loans, no undergrad debt
-Interested in employment litigation but this could obviously change

PLEASE NOTE - Can't retake, set on law school, not taking more time off, riding out 5 T14 waitlists

Re: GW v. BC v. Fordham v. Temple

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:41 pm
by Nelson
I love these threads. You already know what the right choice here is, which is why you spend your entire post telling us why you won't listen to the advice you're going to get. Given your one actual goal of "as many opportunities and as much flexibility as possible," you should, as you know, not go with these options.

The job prospects from GW/BC/Fordham are equally mediocre. There is no significant difference between them in terms of their likelihood of getting you a job. These are some of the worst return on investment law schools in the country. Temple for super cheap is OK for some, but you don't seem like the kind of person who'd be happy trying to hustle a small firm job in Philly in the likely event that you aren't at the top of your class.

Re: GW v. BC v. Fordham v. Temple

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:11 pm
by Micdiddy
skittles20 wrote:GW - 32k/year scholarship
maxed out on lsat attempts, have already taken 2 years off
Clarify. Have you taken 2 years off POST lsat attempts?
If so, you're eligible for more LSAT goodness.

Re: GW v. BC v. Fordham v. Temple

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:14 pm
by NanaP
skittles20 wrote:GW - 32k/year scholarship
BC - 30k/year scholarship
Fordham - 15k/year scholarship
Temple - 15k/ year scholarship (in state tuition is 20k)
I think all are 2.0 stips or something like that, nothing that sounded hard to keep

-Stats: 167/3.6(ivy undergrad)/M - maxed out on lsat attempts, have already taken 2 years off
-Work at midsize firm in NYC now through friend of family, think i could get a job here but obviously no guarantees, starting salary is around 130
-Parents are lawyers with lots of connections in Philadelphia area
-Absolutely no idea where I want to practice - open to living anywhere for law school - like everyone else, i'd obviously like as many opportunities and as much flexibility as possible after law school (please save the "well then don't go with these options") - paying for law school myself through loans, no undergrad debt
-Interested in employment litigation but this could obviously change

PLEASE NOTE - Can't retake, set on law school, not taking more time off, riding out 5 T14 waitlists

I think GW and BC are not bad options with that kind of Scholly, if there are no harsh stips

Re: GW v. BC v. Fordham v. Temple

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 3:18 pm
by dawyzest1
Nelson wrote:Temple for super cheap is OK for some, but you don't seem like the kind of person who'd be happy trying to hustle a small firm job in Philly in the likely event that you aren't at the top of your class.
But isn't Philly where his parents' connections, etc. could help him the most? Temple is most definitely a regional/Philly-centric kind of school, but I could see deciding to go there for $5k/year plus COL. I'm not sure which Ivy you're coming from, but I know plenty of Penn undergrads who were happy to get their JDs from Temple.

Re: GW v. BC v. Fordham v. Temple

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:50 pm
by Informative
I would rule out Temple here if you have your heart set on having a shot at big firms.

Between GW, BC and Fordham, I would go with BC which gives you a "slightly" better chance at biglaw and it is the "slightly" more national school.

If you want BigGov, go to GW.
If you want NYC Biglaw only, go to Fordham.
Otherwise, I would go with BC.

Re: GW v. BC v. Fordham v. Temple

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 5:55 pm
by hephaestus
Nelson wrote:I love these threads. You already know what the right choice here is, which is why you spend your entire post telling us why you won't listen to the advice you're going to get. Given your one actual goal of "as many opportunities and as much flexibility as possible," you should, as you know, not go with these options.

The job prospects from GW/BC/Fordham are equally mediocre. There is no significant difference between them in terms of their likelihood of getting you a job. These are some of the worst return on investment law schools in the country. Temple for super cheap is OK for some, but you don't seem like the kind of person who'd be happy trying to hustle a small firm job in Philly in the likely event that you aren't at the top of your class.
This is on target. Given your goals, the correct answer is to wait another year and take for a 4th time.