Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

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Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby katch » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:01 pm

I think I've exhausted my negotiating. Have to make the decision by Wednesday. Total COAs assuming no money in the summers and without interest:

UCLA: 60k
Duke: 140k
Berkeley: 140k
NYU: 235k

Also WL at Harvard and Stanford. But I already talked to financial aid officers at both and I won't see a dime from them. I assume TLS wisdom would say go and pay sticker anyways.

I want biglaw or perhaps a clerkship followed by biglaw. Region isn't super important, I think I could learn to love just about anywhere. I'll go wherever the best job opportunity is, including back here to Texas. That wasn't me expressing a preference for Texas, but I'd be fine if I ended up back close to my family.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby Mal Reynolds » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:03 pm

I'd take Duke or Berkeley based on where you'd prefer to work.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby nickb285 » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:18 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:I'd take Duke or Berkeley based on where you'd prefer to work.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby Bronck » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:18 pm

nickb285 wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:I'd take Duke or Berkeley based on where you'd prefer to work.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby katch » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:22 pm

lol so how about a preference between Duke and Berkeley?

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby Bronck » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:24 pm

Just as the quoted text says: Berkeley if you want WC, Duke if you want EC/South.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby BarbellDreams » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:24 pm

I would go to H or S @ sticker followed by Berk/Duke followed by UCLA. NYU is out IMO. I think Duke gives you slight edge for biglaw and Berk gives you slight edge for clerkships but the difference is negligible. Berk if you prefer CA and Duke if you prefer NY.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby Mal Reynolds » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:27 pm

katch wrote:lol so how about a preference between Duke and Berkeley?


Be an adult and make a decision.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby katch » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:28 pm

Berkeley it is then. I think the bay area will be more fun than NC. And CA more than NY.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby Mal Reynolds » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:31 pm

Wait have you not visited either school?

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby katch » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:34 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:
katch wrote:lol so how about a preference between Duke and Berkeley?


Be an adult and make a decision.


Good God lol. I'm asking for advice, obviously theres more subjective factors that perhaps others know more about than I do. Ive never been to NC, maybe people can tell me its amazing. My debt averse side still tells me I should think about UCLA. But I wanted some honest opinions on the quality(in all aspects, not just future jobs) vs cost here.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby katch » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:35 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:Wait have you not visited either school?


Been to Berkeley, not Duke.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby sinfiery » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:37 pm

katch wrote:Berkeley it is then. I think the bay area will be more fun than NC. And CA more than NY.

Would be my reasoning too. Enjoy berk.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby Doorkeeper » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:53 pm

Bronck wrote:
nickb285 wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:I'd take Duke or Berkeley based on where you'd prefer to work.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby Mal Reynolds » Mon Apr 29, 2013 8:54 pm

katch wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:Wait have you not visited either school?


Been to Berkeley, not Duke.


Well then god be with you. B for that price ain't bad.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby JamMasterJ » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:08 pm

Berkeley unless you get off those WLs

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby John_rizzy_rawls » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:12 pm

Bronck wrote:
nickb285 wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:I'd take Duke or Berkeley based on where you'd prefer to work.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:46 pm

Berkeley. Location aside, better school than Duke if same price IMO.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby rad lulz » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:50 pm

Doorkeeper wrote:
Bronck wrote:
nickb285 wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:I'd take Duke or Berkeley based on where you'd prefer to work.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby BigZuck » Mon Apr 29, 2013 9:51 pm

Of these 4, I vote UT

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby katch » Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:08 am

BigZuck wrote:Of these 4, I vote UT


Oh you. Lol I tried. They wouldn't budge. They still thought they were giving me a better deal with half tuition even with UCLA being tuition free. They must think very highly of themselves.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby Grazzhoppa » Tue Apr 30, 2013 12:12 am

Berkeley. But watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWya-liCcLE before you go just to be sure.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby katch » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:24 am

Grazzhoppa wrote:Berkeley. But watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWya-liCcLE before you go just to be sure.


Im glad you posted that! Kind of crappy that they interviewed during the APALA event, sort of distorts the sample. But I cant decide if the purple hatted Asian was a pro or a con..... Anyways, when I visited, I was a huge fan of the chill atmosphere. And he mentions the building being outdated but it was the highest quality physical building out of UT, UCLA, USC, and dare I say it, Stanford. Perhaps the video was made before the recent renovations. Also, every single one of the Stanford students I talked to thought that Berkeley was a better physical location. I guess the South Bay is pretty dry and boring.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby worldtraveler » Tue Apr 30, 2013 1:47 am

katch wrote:
Grazzhoppa wrote:Berkeley. But watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWya-liCcLE before you go just to be sure.


Im glad you posted that! Kind of crappy that they interviewed during the APALA event, sort of distorts the sample. But I cant decide if the purple hatted Asian was a pro or a con..... Anyways, when I visited, I was a huge fan of the chill atmosphere. And he mentions the building being outdated but it was the highest quality physical building out of UT, UCLA, USC, and dare I say it, Stanford. Perhaps the video was made before the recent renovations. Also, every single one of the Stanford students I talked to thought that Berkeley was a better physical location. I guess the South Bay is pretty dry and boring.


I know who purple hat man is (had a very visible fashion sense). He graduated in 2011, so that video is a little old. They also can't spell Boalt right...WTF?

The bulding is way nicer than it once was although it's super easy to get lost in it.

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Re: Final offers. Free at UCLA vs Duke, Berkeley, NYU

Postby titan747 » Tue Apr 30, 2013 2:12 am

Why is nobody selecting UCLA. It seems to be a solid value at that price. Is Berkeley really a 80k better investment?




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