Dr. Dre wrote:those that think this putrid of a law school is a sound choice can go fuck themselves too
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Dr. Dre wrote:those that think this putrid of a law school is a sound choice can go fuck themselves too
bk1 wrote:bk1 wrote:There is some data and it's promising. For example, a surprising amount of UCI students have managed to snag A3 clerkships. But it's stupid to think that UCI will be on par with UCLA/USC. UCLA/USC have entrenched alumni networks and connections to firms that expect to hire a certain number of grads each year from those schools, UCI does not have this. UCLA/USC have a history of being the prestigious local schools in SoCal, UCI does not have this and it is something that would take a while to build considering the legal field is a prestige-obsessed industry that is resistant to change. UCI being a peer of UCLA/USC in terms of prestige would be pretty unprecedented and it doesn't make sense to believe that it will happen without any proof.
As for job placement, it is in the realm of possibility that UCI's first class puts up job placement numbers on par with UCLA/USC. But UCI's first class was 60 people. The fewer people the school has to place the easier it is to put up good numbers. The school increased its class size by 50% in its second year and will likely increase it more as time goes on. Furthermore Chemerinsky and other faculty are calling favors to help their students. Those favors are going to run out some time and aren't going to extend indefinitely into the future. That makes it pretty much impossible for them to sustain their placement. The school will also have to be self-sustainable in terms of cost and will have trouble pulling in the same level of talent in its student body due to the fact that they are basically hemorrhaging money for the moment (their first class paid 0 in tuition) on top of the increase in size. This drop in student quality likely will also hurt their placement. UCLA/USC have established pipelines to firms/judges that UCI does not.
I think the most important thing to look at UCI's A3 placement for the first class is to consider the increase in class size that happened (50%) and that there were likely many favors called in by the faculty and there is no guarantee that those will continue.
bk1 wrote:ManoftheHour wrote:Gotti wrote:Went to UCI UG, lived there for 5 years (1 year after graduating). The campus is beautiful, city is boring as hell.
I'd rather live there than Davis though. Unless you like to go cowtipping for your evening entertainment.
This. So. Much. This.
At least in Irvine, you can visit LA or SD. All Davis has is Sactown.
Man, haters gonna hate. Davis is fun in its own right. Irvine is as far from SD as Davis is from SF and I suspect that after traffic the drive from Davis to SF is about the same as Irvine to LA.
Gotti wrote:I never went to SD much but everyone in irvine knows not to go to LA between 3 and 7...and even though 40-45 miles isn't THAT different from 70ish, it still feels like a lot more when you're driving 40 mins than 1.5 hours.
Gotti wrote:NONE of my Davis friends ever went to SF, but all of MB irvine friends went to LA a lot.
bk1 wrote:That's cause Davis is good enough you don't have to leave but Irvine sucks so much that you can't wait to leave.
bk1 wrote:Gotti wrote:I never went to SD much but everyone in irvine knows not to go to LA between 3 and 7...and even though 40-45 miles isn't THAT different from 70ish, it still feels like a lot more when you're driving 40 mins than 1.5 hours.
1.5? Psh, you can make SF in an hour easy.Gotti wrote:NONE of my Davis friends ever went to SF, but all of MB irvine friends went to LA a lot.
That's cause Davis is good enough you don't have to leave but Irvine sucks so much that you can't wait to leave.
Lasers wrote:haha, there are haters on BOTH SIDES.
irvine has more to offer than davis, imo. davis may be close to sf, but that's about it. sacramento has nothing. irvine has SD/LA plus several beaches and cool areas around the OC. far more interesting and varied than davis can offer.
Dr. Dre wrote:Borhas wrote:Dr. Dre wrote:5. We don't hate UCI, we inform people when they are considering terrible decisions.
why not?
Any new law school deserves hate. The students are ok, dont get me wrong. But whoever came up with the idea needs to go fuck himself.
those that think this putrid of a law school is a sound choice can go fuck themselves too
I don't understand why you are butthurt about OTHER people going to UCI like it's affecting you in some way.
bananasplit19 wrote:Lasers wrote:my point was simply that basedI on the current numbers out, UCI is NOT on the same level as USC/UCLA, even with a minuscule class. any conclusion other than that is conjecture on either side.
Well, for the sake of accuracy, based on the current numbers, with the miniscule class size, UCI is above USC, UCLA, and in fact most of the T14. That's not conjecture, that's fact. Also, wholly unsustainable due to sample size. Once the dust settles and the class size jumps to 120, then let's conjecture that it will settle in at No. 19, just behind UCLA and USC. That makes everyone (un)happy. Deal?
ImNoScar wrote:Neither. Big law is virtually unattainable from both schools and mid law isnt really a thing.
Gotti wrote:But honestly OP is not saying "should I go to UCI, UCD, or NEITHER" he's asking which one.
BigZuck wrote:I am tired of reading about UCI. Mods, please lock this thread so we don't have to read any more UCI arguing, TYIA!
vanwinkle wrote:BigZuck wrote:I am tired of reading about UCI. Mods, please lock this thread so we don't have to read any more UCI arguing, TYIA!
Posters, please don't presume to tell us when threads should be locked unless you want to get banned drunk sheriff style, TYIA.
Big Dog wrote:hey zuck, if we locked every thread that had arguing, TLS would cease to exist.
gitguy wrote:Dr. Dre wrote:Borhas wrote:Dr. Dre wrote:5. We don't hate UCI, we inform people when they are considering terrible decisions.
why not?
Any new law school deserves hate. The students are ok, dont get me wrong. But whoever came up with the idea needs to go fuck himself.
those that think this putrid of a law school is a sound choice can go fuck themselves too
You are officially the Sara Palin of TLS. You don't add anything the least bit constructive, and we all wish you would just. go. away.
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