USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

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Where would you attend?

USC ($20,000/year, $60,000/total)
49
86%
UCI ($40,000/year, $120,000/total)
8
14%
 
Total votes: 57

Seasaltcoffee
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USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby Seasaltcoffee » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:04 pm

As referenced above in the poll, USC will be offering $60,000 total with no gpa contingency and UCI will be offering $120,000 total with 2.0 GPA contingency.

Info:
-Want to work in socal, prefer LA > OC but honestly don't care if I end up working in the OC.
-Would like to work biglaw first 2-3 years and eventually open my own practice.
-If USC --> no housing costs (commuting is feasible); If UCI --> pay for housing.

Specifically, I am interested in what you think the significance of the additional $60,000 being offered by UCI is, if at all.

If you think any other information is necessary for you to contribute a vote, let me know.

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RaleighStClair
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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby RaleighStClair » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:07 pm

Housing costs at UCI and none at USC? USC all the way.

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John_rizzy_rawls
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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby John_rizzy_rawls » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:08 pm

These schools aren't even on the same level.

USC, and it's not close.

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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby PotLuck » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:12 pm

CA breakdown

Stanford>Cal>UCLA/USC>Retake>Hastings/Davis>UCI/Pepperdine/Loyola

Do NOT pick UCI in this scenario man. It doesn't make sense.

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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby ChaseInk » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:14 pm

Seasaltcoffee wrote:As referenced above in the poll, USC will be offering $60,000 total with no gpa contingency and UCI will be offering $120,000 total with 2.0 GPA contingency.

Info:
-Want to work in socal, prefer LA > OC but honestly don't care if I end up working in the OC.
-Would like to work biglaw first 2-3 years and eventually open my own practice.
-If USC --> no housing costs (commuting is feasible); If UCI --> pay for housing.

Specifically, I am interested in what you think the significance of the additional $60,000 being offered by UCI is, if at all.

If you think any other information is necessary for you to contribute a vote, let me know.


2L at UCI here. After spring OCI, we have about 25 2Ls going to law firms. Bear in mind that, while this number is slightly below the 1/3 number boasted by USC, there are still quite a few UCI students who have no interest in big law. Also, at OCI last year we had probably equal number of LA firms as OC firms represent. My classmates received offers in LA from: Jones Day, Gibson, OMM, Milbank, Kirkland, Alston, etc. Those are just the ones that I know of personally; most people didn't talk about their offers, only where they accepted (we encourage a culture of not talking too much about grades/job offers/etc). There might be a few others that I am forgetting (and that doesn't include offers from V100s in OC, SF, and elsewhere).

EDIT: I faced a similar dilemma, though I had a full scholly from each.
Last edited by ChaseInk on Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:16 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby John_rizzy_rawls » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:16 pm

PotLuck wrote:CA breakdown

Stanford>Cal>UCLA/USC>Retake>Hastings/Davis>UCI/Pepperdine/Loyola

Do NOT pick UCI in this scenario man. It doesn't make sense.


This needs to me copy-pasted for everyone choosing a LS in CA.

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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby Golden Bear 11 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:26 pm

Assume 12,000/yr for housing...

USC would really be 96K v. UCI at 120k

usc no doubt

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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby jbagelboy » Tue Apr 23, 2013 5:30 pm

USC is a winner here since they gave you a decent scholarship and you are saving money on housing. If it was sticker @ USC vs $120K at UCI, that would be different.

What you should realize however is that neither of these schools give you a "great" chance of biglaw. Even if you choose USC, I would moderate your expectations and make sure you're "OK" with another type of presumably lesser paying legal work in the event you aren't in the top 1/3 of the class.

lawschoolsoldier
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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby lawschoolsoldier » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:12 pm

How do you know how many 2Ls or 3Ls got SA or permanent jobs ?? Do schools put out a list of people?? Any links?

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99.9luft
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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby 99.9luft » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:51 pm

Go to USC.

Also, for SoCal

Stanford>Cal>UCLA/USC>Retake>Hastings/Davis>UCI/Pepperdine/Loyola


FTFM

Stanford>Cal>UCLA>USC>UCI>Hastings/Davis>Pepperdine/Loyola

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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby LiquidJames » Tue Apr 23, 2013 7:57 pm

UCI for the money
the hate here for UCI is ridiculous, u should consult other sources other than this forum

lawschoolsoldier
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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby lawschoolsoldier » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:14 pm

LiquidJames wrote:UCI for the money
the hate here for UCI is ridiculous, u should consult other sources other than this forum


Dr Dre hasn't posted yet so what you talking about?

and he should consider UCI but pobably go with USC..

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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby Dmini7 » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:28 pm

LiquidJames wrote:UCI for the money
the hate here for UCI is ridiculous, u should consult other sources other than this forum


Liquid, weren't you saying UCI is garbage three days ago? You should be telling OP to retake and reapply to chapman, since its miles ahead of UCI as the best school in OC, and will be a peer with USC.

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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby Cobretti » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:36 pm

Dmini7 wrote:
LiquidJames wrote:UCI for the money
the hate here for UCI is ridiculous, u should consult other sources other than this forum


Liquid, weren't you saying UCI is garbage three days ago? You should be telling OP to retake and reapply to chapman, since its miles ahead of UCI as the best school in OC, and will be a peer with USC.

+1
wtf

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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby DildaMan » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:43 pm

LiquidJames wrote:
so i think [Chapman] will be a peer school to USC/UCLA soon enough, and definitely better than UCI, which is a TTTT



http://www.top-law-schools.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=208083&p=6687809#p6687809

lawschoolsoldier
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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby lawschoolsoldier » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:46 pm

Damn.. it doesn't look good for him now..

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Grazzhoppa
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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby Grazzhoppa » Tue Apr 23, 2013 8:53 pm

USC.

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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby J-e-L-L-o » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:51 pm

Cobretti wrote:
Dmini7 wrote:
LiquidJames wrote:UCI for the money
the hate here for UCI is ridiculous, u should consult other sources other than this forum


Liquid, weren't you saying UCI is garbage three days ago? You should be telling OP to retake and reapply to chapman, since its miles ahead of UCI as the best school in OC, and will be a peer with USC.

+1
wtf


+2 :lol: I remember this doode

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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby Doorkeeper » Tue Apr 23, 2013 11:54 pm

The cost of USC is still pushing $200k with a $60k scholarship. I don't think OP should attend a school with a 31% chance at biglaw for around $200k. I would probably retake and reapply if only to get more scholarship money out of UCLA and USC next cycle.

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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby bizzybone1313 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:17 am

Dr. Dre must be in the studio working on his new album Detox to have not posted yet in this thread. Dre-- what's up man? You have been working on Detox for like 13 years now.

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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby vanwinkle » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:26 am

LiquidJames wrote:UCI for the money
the hate here for UCI is ridiculous, u should consult other sources other than this forum

Shitty trolling + alting = nuking.

FIRE IN THE HOLE!

Image

Target neutralized.

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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby Cobretti » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:59 am

vanwinkle wrote:Target neutralized.

You're doing god's work

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bananasplit19
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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby bananasplit19 » Wed Apr 24, 2013 1:22 am

Thanks for the fine modwork. Back on topic: OP, I'm a big Irvine fan and I believe they're the real deal, but I think USC is the correct choice.

You want BigLaw, and USC is a bigger player in the SoCal market for that. In my research and conversations with students/faculty at UCI, they seem to be gunning more for clerkship and PI. Additionally, while on-campus housing at UCI is cheaper than expected, it ain't cheaper than free, which is what you'd have at USC.

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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby Seasaltcoffee » Wed Apr 24, 2013 12:25 pm

Doorkeeper wrote:The cost of USC is still pushing $200k with a $60k scholarship. I don't think OP should attend a school with a 31% chance at biglaw for around $200k. I would probably retake and reapply if only to get more scholarship money out of UCLA and USC next cycle.


It would actually be less than $200k.
$50k~ tuition x 3 = $150,000~ - $60K scholly = $90K
This is pre-interest btw so obviously would be higher, but no where near the $200K mark.
I failed to mention that I wouldn't spend money out of pocket for misc fees (books, food, etc) so I am only taking into account the cost of tuition & housing.
I also should have stated the biglaw goal in a 3-pronged statement:
1. I want to attend the school that will maximize my chances of landing biglaw in Socal.
2. I want to work biglaw for 2-3 years post-grad.
3. I am fine with not getting biglaw, would be content with midlaw/reputable small law.

Thanks for your contribution everyone. Chose USC.

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Re: USC ($) vs. UCI ($$)

Postby PRgradBYU » Wed Apr 24, 2013 3:42 pm

I'm not sure why UCI is even an option. USC all the way.




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