Mick Haller wrote:It's almost impossible to see any California law school other than Stan/Berk/UCLA/USC as a good investment.
If you are borrowing more than 60k or so on this venture, you are making a bad decision. Put it this way, you are looking at about 40% chance of full time legal employment, and if you are lucky enough to make it into that group, your salary will probably be around $60,000.
I'd save three years of my life and all the $$ and just cut to the chase and get a 45-50k job and try to work my way up.
<---- Hastings 2012 grad
Given the accomplishments of a lot of alumns, I have to disagree that these are shit schools. Job market is tough. I know this.
Dude, you don't determine whether a school is good or not based on the accomplishments of some of their alumni. I could find you a decent handful of very
successful alumni (firm partners, judges, general counsels, CEOs and VPs of big companies, etc.) from every law school in the country, including dumps like New York Law School, Cooley, etc. Just about every law school in the country is churning out people to decent jobs, even in this economy. That doesn't make them good. A good school is one that, for the average graduate, is able to place them into a solid job. The job data clearly shows that this is not the case for either of these schools.
Your approach to this massive financial and career investment is woeful. You are not approaching this rationally or skeptically. You are staring down the barrel of six-figures of debt and likely un/under-employment, and all you're doing in this thread is grasping for someone to validate your decision. Those of us who have actually been through this process, those of us who have been in your shoes and gone through hiring and are about to graduate or are recent graduates, are all telling you to abandon ship. Even a 2012 Hastings graduate thinks you're make a terrible mistake. Not only that, but all the job statistics are there for you to see, and they're not very good. How naive and stubborn do you have to be to plow ahead anyways in the face of all this advice and all this data?