The reasons that you state gave Florida a strong argument. I do see myself in Cali long term, though, which is why I bailed.sublime12089 wrote:togepi wrote:Might as well tell OP what he wants to hear:
Loyola - http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=loyola 41.1% employment score, 43.6% unemployment score
Hastings - http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=hastings 46.3% employment score, 43.3% unemployment score
Using the mythical formula when choosing law schools:
If Employment score > Unemployment score = GO GO GO
If Employment score < Unemployment score = NO NO NO
Bottom line, Hastings all the way bro.
There it is. Done.
Look, clearly the (unanimous?) consensus is that either is a terrible idea if they are not full rides, but you are going to do what you are going to do.
For conversation though, are you set on trying to work in Cali? I saw you got into UF and if you want to work in Florida it is not a bad school, especially at under 20k tuition for 2L and 3L and cheap cost of living. I am not saying UF at out of state sticker is a great idea, but if you are ok working in Florida, especially if you have ties there, that is a much better choice than Hastings or Loyola.
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Waiting on FinAid from Hastings. I'm expecting it will be the ~15k nearly everyone else got.ManoftheHour wrote:OP, I've seen your posts in a few threads (we're in the same cycle and applying to similar schools), so I have to ask: Are playing mental gymnastics to try to justify going to Hastings (Because of its higher ranking in comparison to Loyola)? It says in your profile that you got 90k from Loyola. It doesn't say anything about Hastings so I'm assuming that you didn't get anything there. If Hastings didn't give you any money, it's completely out of the question.
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There's no "magic bullet" of information we can give you that will somehow distinguish the two schools. They're both law schools. They have law professors and law students. One's in LA and one's in SF. Other than that, there's very little to distinguish one law school from another.CO2016YEAH wrote:Geez, of course all else isn't equal. But the cynicism here is ridiculous!
I'm not trying to "outsmart" anyone. Don't like either school? Fine. Asking regarding "all else equal" is not so much to convey that all else is equal, as it is to get a perception of your opinion of these schools if it were. Looks like almost no one here would attend either. That's fine too.
This thread is more for fun/time passing than anything else. "All else" is part of my personal consideration. Chilax, guys.
I'd attend either for the right cost. I would not attend for the wrong cost. Since you haven't given any information about cost, then we can't help you.
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Did you meet his wife, Mrs. Anecdote? She's an international human rights war crimes prosecutor but still finds time to look good and wrap up every plotline in 30 minutes.ImNoScar wrote:Plus, my friend, Mr. Anecdote, graduated from this school 10 years ago and is a partner at Vault Firm X.ajax adonis wrote:When I graduate, the economy will be humming along!togepi wrote:ITS CYCLICALImNoScar wrote:I love when people post threads like these. I imagine the thought process goes like this:
"TLS told me to retake in my first thread."
"I know, I've outsmarted them. If I just say disregard costs they'll have to tell me which to pick."
OP makes a new thread. Everyone tells him to retake.
OP, it's impossible to make decisions disconnected from reality. Thought exercises are for philosophy classes, not life altering decisions.
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Hastings probably isn't as terrifying as everyone on this thread is making it sound, but I know it's been slipping in the rankings so that's a little terrifying. I mean if you want Cali I'm sure it's not the absolute worst thing ever if you have the money to blow. If you have a lot of debt, maybe re-take and try to get more money somewhere else next year. If you've got some $$ to burn and you want Hastings, go for it. I mean if you want to know one of these two choices with no COA, I guess I'd choose Hastings. I applied and got in. It didn't seem that horrible. I just decided to stay on the East coast so won't be attending.
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Hastings is a terrible investment
DON'T go there
DON'T go there
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In that case, no brainer. If you have to attend, Loyola. If you lose your scholly, drop out.CO2016YEAH wrote:Waiting on FinAid from Hastings. I'm expecting it will be the ~15k nearly everyone else got.ManoftheHour wrote:OP, I've seen your posts in a few threads (we're in the same cycle and applying to similar schools), so I have to ask: Are playing mental gymnastics to try to justify going to Hastings (Because of its higher ranking in comparison to Loyola)? It says in your profile that you got 90k from Loyola. It doesn't say anything about Hastings so I'm assuming that you didn't get anything there. If Hastings didn't give you any money, it's completely out of the question.
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Dr. Dre wrote:ManoftheHour wrote:OP, please don't go to Hastings.
At least for Loyola, you could drop out if you lose your scholly.
Dre you got my vote for 2013 poaster of the year bruh!
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have u considered chapman? it's better than both
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Seriously? In what way?LiquidJames wrote:have u considered chapman? it's better than both
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In unemployment and higher COA. Enjoy.CO2016YEAH wrote:Seriously? In what way?LiquidJames wrote:have u considered chapman? it's better than both
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Re: All else equal, Hastings or Loyola?
no i 'm not, i respect hastings as a UC and loyola as one of the most well known schools in LA, but i do, subjectively, believe in terms of qualify of education, chapman is probably better than both of them.sublime12089 wrote:CO2016YEAH wrote:Seriously? In what way?LiquidJames wrote:have u considered chapman? it's better than both
None. He is a flame. Ignore him.
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What about McGeorge?LiquidJames wrote:no i 'm not, i respect hastings as a UC and loyola as one of the most well known schools in LA, but i do, subjectively, believe in terms of qualify of education, chapman is probably better than both of them.sublime12089 wrote:CO2016YEAH wrote:Seriously? In what way?LiquidJames wrote:have u considered chapman? it's better than both
None. He is a flame. Ignore him.
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I got an email about California Online Law School. Maybe I should be looking into this. Virtual classes meet twice a week. Bar passage rate is only 33%, but I'm sure that just means I will shine extra bright among my peers.
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dude, that's a scam school, do NOT go to california online law school even when it's free, or any online law schools, they are mostly scams, even if you are among the 33% that pass the bar, you still won't get jobsCO2016YEAH wrote:I got an email about California Online Law School. Maybe I should be looking into this. Virtual classes meet twice a week. Bar passage rate is only 33%, but I'm sure that just means I will shine extra bright among my peers.
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CO2016YEAH wrote:I got an email about California Online Law School.
retake
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Lol. I'm flaming now. Will not be going to Ca Online Law school.
I do disagree with the notion that Hastings and LLS are an utter waste of time, though.
Edit- And I do disagree with the notion that Chapman > LLS/Hastings in any metric other than those Manofthehour listed. Might still offer a decent education, but still...
I do disagree with the notion that Hastings and LLS are an utter waste of time, though.
Edit- And I do disagree with the notion that Chapman > LLS/Hastings in any metric other than those Manofthehour listed. Might still offer a decent education, but still...
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to be honest though, UCI is almost just as bad, i heard they have virtual classes too because they are admitting so many who apply and their school has very limited capacityDr. Dre wrote:CO2016YEAH wrote:I got an email about California Online Law School.
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142 troll.LiquidJames wrote:to be honest though, UCI is almost just as bad, i heard they have virtual classes too because they are admitting so many who apply and their school has very limited capacityDr. Dre wrote:CO2016YEAH wrote:I got an email about California Online Law School.
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ImNoScar wrote:142 troll.LiquidJames wrote:to be honest though, UCI is almost just as bad, i heard they have virtual classes too because they are admitting so many who apply and their school has very limited capacityDr. Dre wrote:CO2016YEAH wrote:I got an email about California Online Law School.
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Have you considered pursuing other options?
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I have. I have been denied from virtually every other Ca school I might attend. I was WL at UNC and UGA, but I really actually need (and want) to stay in Ca anyways.dr123 wrote:Have you considered pursuing other options?
Pepperdine is still on the table with a current offer of 15k/yr. Ultimately, I'm more or less ruling out Hastings due to high COA and a preference for southern vs northern Ca. So, ya. I guess this is becoming a Pepperdine v LLS thread, unless I am wrong about what I think is an inevitable USC ding on its way in the mail.
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If at first you don't succeed, quit and don't admit to trying.CO2016YEAH wrote:I have. I have been denied from virtually every other Ca school I might attend. I was WL at UNC and UGA, but I really actually need (and want) to stay in Ca anyways.dr123 wrote:Have you considered pursuing other options?
Pepperdine is still on the table with a current offer of 15k/yr. Ultimately, I'm more or less ruling out Hastings due to high COA and a preference for southern vs northern Ca. So, ya. I guess this is becoming a Pepperdine v LLS thread, unless I am wrong about what I think is an inevitable USC ding on its way in the mail.
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