Help: Cant choose money or prestige SJU/Fordham/BC/Cardozo Forum

[sinfiery]

which means?

Trick me into reading your post history. I've done it like 4 times now.

[dixiecupdrinking]

St. Johns or Cardozo won't ruin your life with those scholarships. Cross off Fordham, it's not ~$150k better than St. Johns. BC is defensible if your parents are paying, otherwise don't do it.

You really should retake.

[tennisgirl5]

If retaking is not an option, why not consider SJU or Cardozo with scholarships that first year, kill 1L and transfer 2L?

[Mal Reynolds]

Go to Cardozo. Every partner I spoke to said they will hire from this school.

You are amazing at what you do.

which means?

That you're an idiot.

[froglee]

Go to Cardozo. Every partner I spoke to said they will hire from this school.

You are amazing at what you do.

which means?

That you're an idiot.

Cardozo is a great school that can offer OP a lot of career options....too bad you can't handle this fact.

[romothesavior]

Cardozo is a great school that can offer OP a lot of career options....too bad you can't handle this fact.

Statistics disagree with you.

[Scotchandsoda]

ok well if retaking the lsat is not an option and lets say none have prestige but some are clearly better than others. any help now?

If you insist on not retaking, and seeing as how you have no idea what you want to do with your JD, I'd say go with St.Johns and If you lose your scholarship then drop out.

[Scotchandsoda]

Go to Cardozo. Every partner I spoke to said they will hire from this school.[/quote][/quote][/quote][/quote]



since when was Cardozo a "great" school? and seriously, just cause every partner YOU spoke to does not mean its a great school. All its means is that every partner you spoke to thinks its a great school.

[TripTrip]

Cardozo is a great school that can offer OP a lot of career options....too bad you can't handle this fact.

Statistics disagree with you.

Didn't you hear? At least ten of last years graduates had jobs!

[andreskicdo]

Retake, get some WE and reapply

[envisciguy]

If retaking is not an option, why not consider SJU or Cardozo with scholarships that first year, kill 1L and transfer 2L?

No.

[Crowing]

which means?

Trick me into reading your post history. I've done it like 4 times now.

lololol

im still trying to figure out what the op means by prestige. im not trying to be elitist; im legitimately wondering what is being considered more prestigious here between bc and fordham.

[dirtrida2]

You should have blanketed more schools. FWIW I got similar offers with lower numbers.

Sitting with 30k at Dozo (not that I plan on attending).

Full ride at St. Johns (they won't drop the stips - do not attend).

WL'd at Fordham and still UR at BC.

Any reason why you want to remain in NYC? Have you even tried negotiating?

With that GPA the obvious answer is to retake, but I am just confused as to why your offers are so low.

[mike09]

NYC is home and family is here. I am all about family and that is why i will consider as far as boston. I don't know why the offers were not better but thats what they were.

On a side note I do have some connections with the sports world and in particular sports agencies.

[romothesavior]

NYC is home and family is here. I am all about family and that is why i will consider as far as boston. I don't know why the offers were not better but thats what they were.

On a side note I do have some connections with the sports world and in particular sports agencies.

For your sake and your family's sake, retake.

[mike09]

i have also received a full tuition scholarship for my first year at Uconn law. and in state tutiton the next two years if i change my residency. still same opinion?

[romothesavior]

i have also received a full tuition scholarship for my first year at Uconn law. and in state tutiton the next two years if i change my residency. still same opinion?

If you want NYC, yes. Fordham with money, or even a full ride at Dozo, would be decent options. But sticker at Fordham or 100k at Dozo makes no sense.

[fredmerz]

Stipulations for scholarships range from top half of class for St. Johns and maintain 3.0 for Cardozo

Both of those stipulations make it more likely than not that you will lose your scholarship after the first year.

Why is it more likely than not that he/she will not be in the top half of their class at St Johns after the first year? Some of you are so cynical. It's possible to go to any of these schools and get a good job and have a wonderful life. Of course one should be aware of the statistics, but some of you doomers are ridiculous.

[TripTrip]

Stipulations for scholarships range from top half of class for St. Johns and maintain 3.0 for Cardozo

Both of those stipulations make it more likely than not that you will lose your scholarship after the first year.

Why is it more likely than not that he/she will not be in the top half of their class at St Johns after the first year? Some of you are so cynical. It's possible to go to any of these schools and get a good job and have a wonderful life. Of course one should be aware of the statistics, but some of you doomers are ridiculous.

Accounting for attrition, more than half of the entering class will, by definition, not be in the top half of the class. It's simple statistics, not ridiculous.

[fredmerz]

Stipulations for scholarships range from top half of class for St. Johns and maintain 3.0 for Cardozo

Both of those stipulations make it more likely than not that you will lose your scholarship after the first year.

Why is it more likely than not that he/she will not be in the top half of their class at St Johns after the first year? Some of you are so cynical. It's possible to go to any of these schools and get a good job and have a wonderful life. Of course one should be aware of the statistics, but some of you doomers are ridiculous.

Accounting for attrition, more than half of the entering class will, by definition, not be in the top half of the class. It's simple statistics, not ridiculous.

Yes, but you aren't talking about a generic St John's student. They are giving this person a scholarship based on their likelihood of doing well at the school. Someone with a 3.8 and a 164 should be in the top half of their class at St Johns. Isn't the combination of those two factors supposed to be at least a rough guide one's ability to succeed in law school.

[TripTrip]

Yes, but you aren't talking about a generic St John's student. They are giving this person a scholarship based on their likelihood of doing well at the school. Someone with a 3.8 and a 164 should be in the top half of their class at St Johns. Isn't the combination of those two factors supposed to be at least a rough guide one's ability to succeed in law school.

I'd love to see some data to back that up.

[empyreanrrv]

Yes, but you aren't talking about a generic St John's student. They are giving this person a scholarship based on their likelihood of doing well at the school. Someone with a 3.8 and a 164 should be in the top half of their class at St Johns. Isn't the combination of those two factors supposed to be at least a rough guide one's ability to succeed in law school.

I'd love to see some data to back that up.

This horse has been beaten to death elsewhere on the forum, but there's around a ~.45 correlation between LSAT/UGPA and law school performance. It exists, but you can't rely on it or use it to predict how you will do. Yes, he has better than a 50% chance to end up in the top half of the class, but it would be idiotic not to plan for median.

[untar614]

Yes, but you aren't talking about a generic St John's student. They are giving this person a scholarship based on their likelihood of doing well at the school. Someone with a 3.8 and a 164 should be in the top half of their class at St Johns. Isn't the combination of those two factors supposed to be at least a rough guide one's ability to succeed in law school.

I'd love to see some data to back that up.

This horse has been beaten to death elsewhere on the forum, but there's around a ~.45 correlation between LSAT/UGPA and law school performance. It exists, but you can't rely on it or use it to predict how you will do. Yes, he has better than a 50% chance to end up in the top half of the class, but it would be idiotic not to plan for median.

Source? Also, a confidence interval would be more useful.

[Cobretti]

Yes, but you aren't talking about a generic St John's student. They are giving this person a scholarship based on their likelihood of doing well at the school. Someone with a 3.8 and a 164 should be in the top half of their class at St Johns. Isn't the combination of those two factors supposed to be at least a rough guide one's ability to succeed in law school.

I'd love to see some data to back that up.

This horse has been beaten to death elsewhere on the forum, but there's around a ~.45 correlation between LSAT/UGPA and law school performance. It exists, but you can't rely on it or use it to predict how you will do. Yes, he has better than a 50% chance to end up in the top half of the class, but it would be idiotic not to plan for median.

Source? Also, a confidence interval would be more useful.

He's probably referring to this video

[M458]

Yes, but you aren't talking about a generic St John's student. They are giving this person a scholarship based on their likelihood of doing well at the school. Someone with a 3.8 and a 164 should be in the top half of their class at St Johns. Isn't the combination of those two factors supposed to be at least a rough guide one's ability to succeed in law school.

I'd love to see some data to back that up.

This horse has been beaten to death elsewhere on the forum, but there's around a ~.45 correlation between LSAT/UGPA and law school performance. It exists, but you can't rely on it or use it to predict how you will do. Yes, he has better than a 50% chance to end up in the top half of the class, but it would be idiotic not to plan for median.

Source? Also, a confidence interval would be more useful.

Enjoy:

http://www.lsac.org/jd/pdfs/lsat-score- ... rmance.pdf