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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby hephaestus » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:29 pm

Since all you want is NYC big law, go to Penn. I think this calculus would only change if you want to clerk.

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby enigmabk » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:29 pm

Penn, look @ LST.

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:31 pm

I'd go to Penn if cls gives you 0. I'd probably go to CLS @ 40K over Penn @ 66K if I really, really wanted to be in new york -- these are entirely personal decisions though, I can only speak to what I would do -- but it sounds like you have family in penn so it can't be that bad.

great choices congrats & good luck!

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby battlerifle13 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:32 pm

ImNoScar wrote:Since all you want is NYC big law, go to Penn. I think this calculus would only change if you want to clerk.

Could you elaborate this point? I mean, I am not dead set on doing NYC big law straight out (just another clueless 0L thinking that's what I wanna do). If I do well enough in law school to clerk then I would certainly take that opportunity.

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby twenty » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:35 pm

The difference between Penn with 66k and Columbia with 0k is about an extra 9 months to a year in biglaw. It sounds like you'd be way happier in NYC with your best friend than Penn with a bunch of rude Philadelphians. :D

I'd go Columbia unless Penn bumps up their scholarship.

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby sinfiery » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:38 pm

battlerifle13 wrote:but my best friends will be in New York City next year, who I plan on living with if I go to Columbia. Again, I prefer to be in NYC with similar cost.


The sound financial decision is UPenn but it won't be the end of the world to take CLS at sticker.

If living in NYC is something important to you whilst in school, CLS may be worth considering. Really depends how much you value it.

CLS at sticker = 290k in debt roughly at graduation
UPenn with 66k = roughly 196k in debt at graduation

Considering it's probably easier to live below estimates from UPenn, you are looking at a 100k difference in COA.

CLS has slightly better job prospects, but not worth 100k more.

Financially, the answer is UPenn. That doesn't have to be your only consideration though.

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby banjo » Mon Apr 15, 2013 5:59 pm

I say take Penn and just visit your friends on Megabus once in a while. Penn is not NYC, but it has pretty cool restaurants/bars/stuff.

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby jayman12 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:00 pm

columbia. with your best friends in nyc, it can be just like Sex and the City all over again

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby Bronck » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:01 pm

ImNoScar wrote:Since all you want is NYC big law, go to Penn. I think this calculus would only change if you want to clerk.


Huh?

Non-YHS T14 are fungible w/r/t clerking... Penn is a no brainer here. It's pretty easy to live well below the CoL estimates that CLS provides, but even then ~265k debt is too much (assuming no 2L SA) when you can go to Penn for under 200k.

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby sinfiery » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:05 pm

Bronck wrote:It's pretty easy to live well below the CoL estimates that CLS provides,

Did not know this. Fck yes!


Carry on.

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby Nelson » Mon Apr 15, 2013 6:07 pm

Bronck wrote:
ImNoScar wrote:Since all you want is NYC big law, go to Penn. I think this calculus would only change if you want to clerk.


Huh?

Non-YHS T14 are fungible w/r/t clerking... Penn is a no brainer here. It's pretty easy to live well below the CoL estimates that CLS provides, but even then ~265k debt is too much (assuming no 2L SA) when you can go to Penn for under 200k.

TITCR.

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby Doorkeeper » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:19 pm

Penn (unless Columbia gives you around $50k).

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby bizzybone1313 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:23 pm

sinfiery wrote:
Bronck wrote:It's pretty easy to live well below the CoL estimates that CLS provides,

Did not know this. Fck yes!

Carry on.


The sarcasm isn't warranted. When I look at TLS COL estimates, I just shake my head and think back to my days of paying $1,068 per semester for my dorm during my freshman year in college. Living like a peasant is something that most people cannot do.

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby sinfiery » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:25 pm

bizzybone1313 wrote:The sarcasm isn't warranted. When I look at TLS COL estimates, I just shake my head and think back to my days of paying $1,068 per semester for my dorm during my freshman year in college. Living like a peasant is something that most people cannot do.

Wasn't sarcastic. I really don't know what to expect for NYC in terms of cost


$325 rent a month at my UG though versus 1400+ a month for dorms at NYU had me thinking

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby bizzybone1313 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:26 pm

sinfiery wrote:
bizzybone1313 wrote:The sarcasm isn't warranted. When I look at TLS COL estimates, I just shake my head and think back to my days of paying $1,068 per semester for my dorm during my freshman year in college. Living like a peasant is something that most people cannot do.

Wasn't sarcastic. I really don't know what to expect for NYC in terms of cost


I know a special lil area in NYC that would bring COL down dramatically, but I cannot let this secret out. If I attend a NYC law school, I am going to live there.

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:32 pm

bizzybone1313 wrote:
sinfiery wrote:
bizzybone1313 wrote:The sarcasm isn't warranted. When I look at TLS COL estimates, I just shake my head and think back to my days of paying $1,068 per semester for my dorm during my freshman year in college. Living like a peasant is something that most people cannot do.

Wasn't sarcastic. I really don't know what to expect for NYC in terms of cost


I know a special lil area in NYC that would bring COL down dramatically, but I cannot let this secret out. If I attend a NYC law school, I am going to live there.


I know this place too. its called brooklyn.

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby bizzybone1313 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 7:34 pm

jbagelboy wrote:
bizzybone1313 wrote:
sinfiery wrote:
bizzybone1313 wrote:The sarcasm isn't warranted. When I look at TLS COL estimates, I just shake my head and think back to my days of paying $1,068 per semester for my dorm during my freshman year in college. Living like a peasant is something that most people cannot do.

Wasn't sarcastic. I really don't know what to expect for NYC in terms of cost


I know a special lil area in NYC that would bring COL down dramatically, but I cannot let this secret out. If I attend a NYC law school, I am going to live there.


I know this place too. its called brooklyn.


It is more special than Brooklyn, cheaper and closer (depending on which law school we are talking about). I have one particular law school in mind.

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby battlerifle13 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:27 pm

Thanks for all your inputs. I'll wait to see what Columbia says.

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby battlerifle13 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:40 pm

If I get into Stanford I will probably go there no matter what, but at this point it looks like I am heading to the waitlist or rejection unfortunately

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby jbagelboy » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:49 pm

battlerifle13 wrote:If I get into Stanford I will probably go there no matter what, but at this point it looks like I am heading to the waitlist or rejection unfortunately


Aren't we all... :)

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby battlerifle13 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:20 am

Received $25,000 from Columbia. Better than nothing!

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby battlerifle13 » Fri Apr 19, 2013 10:52 am

Ahhh what do I do?

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Re: Columbia (Sticker) vs. Penn ($66K)

Postby Law Sauce » Fri Apr 19, 2013 11:01 am

I'd choose Columbia. The small scholarship is enough to make it close and you seem to want to go there more. Not a big enough difference in money not to go to the place that you would rather go. Plus, C should kill NYC biglaw




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