Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

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Which School

Hofstra
25
81%
New York Law School
6
19%
 
Total votes: 31

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LionelHutzJD
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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby LionelHutzJD » Tue May 14, 2013 8:31 pm

Hofstra. Do well and you'll land a job at a nice firm on long island.

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby jbagelboy » Tue May 14, 2013 8:58 pm

One is a weak extremely regional law school, the other is just a bizarre building in downtown manhattan with chairs and a couple conference rooms in it

so I'd have to say hofstra

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby stillwater » Tue May 14, 2013 9:00 pm

LionelHutzJD wrote:Hofstra. Do well and you'll land a job at a nice firm on long island.


i had actually thought youd disappeared. please do that.

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby BigZuck » Tue May 14, 2013 10:10 pm

Dug the necro, led to me reading this thread. Loled. Thanks guys.

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby LionelHutzJD » Thu May 16, 2013 1:20 pm

stillwater wrote:
LionelHutzJD wrote:Hofstra. Do well and you'll land a job at a nice firm on long island.


i had actually thought youd disappeared. please do that.



Do you have a problem? My brother goes to Hofstra and is just doing just fine. He landed some sweet ass internships, met some awesome alumni, president of the sports law club,and is really pushing himself.

I really enjoy this site for the various discussions and I plan on using it during 1L and beyond for help with material, but omfg, the elitism on this site is off the f***ing chain. YOU DO NOT KNOW ME!!! HOW CAN YOU JUDGE MY FUTURE BASED OFF THE SCHOOL I GOT INTO??? You don't know my background, you don't know my interviewing techniques, you don't know my dedication. I don't care about you, or where you're headed, or even what school you go to. Quit being an internet thug and worry about yourself homeboy.

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby North » Thu May 16, 2013 1:23 pm

LionelHutzJD wrote:
stillwater wrote:
LionelHutzJD wrote:Hofstra. Do well and you'll land a job at a nice firm on long island.


i had actually thought youd disappeared. please do that.



Do you have a problem? My brother goes to Hofstra and is just doing just fine. He landed some sweet ass internships, met some awesome alumni, president of the sports law club,and is really pushing himself.

I really enjoy this site for the various discussions and I plan on using it during 1L and beyond for help with material, but omfg, the elitism on this site is off the f***ing chain. YOU DO NOT KNOW ME!!! HOW CAN YOU JUDGE MY FUTURE BASED OFF THE SCHOOL I GOT INTO??? You don't know my background, you don't know my interviewing techniques, you don't know my dedication. I don't care about you, or where you're headed, or even what school you go to. Quit being an internet thug and worry about yourself homeboy.

LOL.

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby romothesavior » Thu May 16, 2013 1:25 pm

Hofstra has objectively terrible job prospects.

Also, internships, meeting cool alumni, and being president of a club are hardly meaningful. I don't know your brother, maybe he's off to a great legal career for all I know. But nothing you just said is at all impressive or indicative of his future, or the quality of a Hofstra degree.

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby LionelHutzJD » Thu May 16, 2013 1:29 pm

romothesavior wrote:Hofstra has objectively terrible job prospects.

Also, internships, meeting cool alumni, and being president of a club are hardly meaningful. I don't know your brother, maybe he's off to a great legal career for all I know. But nothing you just said is at all impressive or indicative of his future, or the quality of a Hofstra degree.



I get that but the way the people on this site categorize law schools and the individuals that attend them is sick. It's a risk for everyone, job prospects are down across the board for all law schools.

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby jbagelboy » Thu May 16, 2013 1:31 pm

LionelHutzJD wrote:
stillwater wrote:
LionelHutzJD wrote:Hofstra. Do well and you'll land a job at a nice firm on long island.


i had actually thought youd disappeared. please do that.



Do you have a problem? My brother goes to Hofstra and is just doing just fine. He landed some sweet ass internships, met some awesome alumni, president of the sports law club,and is really pushing himself.

I really enjoy this site for the various discussions and I plan on using it during 1L and beyond for help with material, but omfg, the elitism on this site is off the f***ing chain. YOU DO NOT KNOW ME!!! HOW CAN YOU JUDGE MY FUTURE BASED OFF THE SCHOOL I GOT INTO??? You don't know my background, you don't know my interviewing techniques, you don't know my dedication. I don't care about you, or where you're headed, or even what school you go to. Quit being an internet thug and worry about yourself homeboy.


Its not a personal judgment on you. Its an objective reality. People ask for advice, and it is given based on research and comparative experiences. No one cares who you are and no one judges you -- Id look to your own insecurity for the root of that complex -- but we can judge institutions on the merit of their programs, admissions, and employment opportunities

Dont tell people to go to hofstra

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby LionelHutzJD » Thu May 16, 2013 1:38 pm

jbagelboy wrote:
LionelHutzJD wrote:
stillwater wrote:
LionelHutzJD wrote:Hofstra. Do well and you'll land a job at a nice firm on long island.


i had actually thought youd disappeared. please do that.



Do you have a problem? My brother goes to Hofstra and is just doing just fine. He landed some sweet ass internships, met some awesome alumni, president of the sports law club,and is really pushing himself.

I really enjoy this site for the various discussions and I plan on using it during 1L and beyond for help with material, but omfg, the elitism on this site is off the f***ing chain. YOU DO NOT KNOW ME!!! HOW CAN YOU JUDGE MY FUTURE BASED OFF THE SCHOOL I GOT INTO??? You don't know my background, you don't know my interviewing techniques, you don't know my dedication. I don't care about you, or where you're headed, or even what school you go to. Quit being an internet thug and worry about yourself homeboy.


Its not a personal judgment on you. Its an objective reality. People ask for advice, and it is given based on research and comparative experiences. No one cares who you are and no one judges you -- Id look to your own insecurity for the root of that complex -- but we can judge institutions on the merit of their programs, admissions, and employment opportunities

Dont tell people to go to hofstra



Ok but stillwater finds the need to attack me as if i don't belong in this community with everyone else. This punk should tell me this in person. Come to NYC bruh, i'll give you a tour of Hofstra.

The objective reality is brutally unfair. I KNOW LAW SCHOOL IS A RISK. But the dude came on this site looking for advice between these two schools. Trust me, I wish I could sit down with OP, in person, and then I can GIVE A TRUE ANSWER on whether or not he should attend Hofstra or no law school at all. Taking the objective "never attend hofstra" is just ludicrous. People have to enter law school and work their f***ing asses off and hopefully they know this from the jump.

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby jingosaur » Thu May 16, 2013 1:38 pm

LionelHutzJD wrote:
HOW CAN YOU JUDGE MY FUTURE BASED OFF THE SCHOOL I GOT INTO???



lawschooltransparency.com

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby hephaestus » Thu May 16, 2013 1:40 pm

LionelHutzJD wrote:But the dude came on this site looking for advice between these two schools. Trust me, I wish I could sit down with OP, in person, and then I can GIVE A TRUE ANSWER on whether or not he should attend Hofstra or no law school at all. Taking the objective "never attend hofstra" is just ludicrous. People have to enter law school and work their f***ing asses off and hopefully they know this from the jump.

Yes, OP came to ask between two schools. However, that implicitly presents four options: NYLS, Hoftra, retaking, or not going to law school. Hofstra is an objectively bad choice at this price. Employment data does a much better job of demonstrating that than a single anecdote.

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby LionelHutzJD » Thu May 16, 2013 1:41 pm

goldbh7 wrote:
LionelHutzJD wrote:
HOW CAN YOU JUDGE MY FUTURE BASED OFF THE SCHOOL I GOT INTO???



lawschooltransparency.com



The stats suck for SO many law schools. We know this already. Move on.

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby hephaestus » Thu May 16, 2013 1:44 pm

LionelHutzJD wrote:
goldbh7 wrote:
LionelHutzJD wrote:
HOW CAN YOU JUDGE MY FUTURE BASED OFF THE SCHOOL I GOT INTO???



lawschooltransparency.com



The stats suck for SO many law schools. We know this already. Move on.

Which is why so few schools are worth paying significant amounts of money for. Hofstra is not one of them.

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby jbagelboy » Thu May 16, 2013 1:54 pm

LionelHutzJD wrote:
goldbh7 wrote:
LionelHutzJD wrote:
HOW CAN YOU JUDGE MY FUTURE BASED OFF THE SCHOOL I GOT INTO???



lawschooltransparency.com



The stats suck for SO many law schools. We know this already. Move on.


so? the fact that other choices are inadvisable does not make the current choice objectively any better

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby LionelHutzJD » Thu May 16, 2013 1:58 pm

jbagelboy wrote:
LionelHutzJD wrote:
goldbh7 wrote:
LionelHutzJD wrote:
HOW CAN YOU JUDGE MY FUTURE BASED OFF THE SCHOOL I GOT INTO???



lawschooltransparency.com



The stats suck for SO many law schools. We know this already. Move on.


so? the fact that other choices are inadvisable does not make the current choice objectively any better


Right. But that's not my point. Pretty much what i'm trying to say is that not all TTT are TTT. Hofstra is very well known in NYC and if you do well (which I know takes a lot) you can come out looking pretty.

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby North » Thu May 16, 2013 2:02 pm

LionelHutzJD wrote:Right. But that's not my point. Pretty much what i'm trying to say is that not all TTT are TTT. Hofstra is very well known in NYC and if you do well (which I know takes a lot) you can come out looking pretty.

Only 51% of Hofstra's most recent class got jobs as lawyers AT ALL. Only 4% got a job as a lawyer in BigLaw. Is that what you think "looking pretty" is?

This TTT is TTT.

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby LionelHutzJD » Thu May 16, 2013 2:13 pm

North wrote:
LionelHutzJD wrote:Right. But that's not my point. Pretty much what i'm trying to say is that not all TTT are TTT. Hofstra is very well known in NYC and if you do well (which I know takes a lot) you can come out looking pretty.

Only 51% of Hofstra's most recent class got jobs as lawyers AT ALL. Only 4% got a job as a lawyer in BigLaw. Is that what you think "looking pretty" is?

This TTT is TTT.



I really don't think many people go to Hofstra with biglaw in mind.

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby North » Thu May 16, 2013 2:23 pm

LionelHutzJD wrote:
North wrote:
LionelHutzJD wrote:Right. But that's not my point. Pretty much what i'm trying to say is that not all TTT are TTT. Hofstra is very well known in NYC and if you do well (which I know takes a lot) you can come out looking pretty.

Only 51% of Hofstra's most recent class got jobs as lawyers AT ALL. Only 4% got a job as a lawyer in BigLaw. Is that what you think "looking pretty" is?

This TTT is TTT.



I really don't think many people go to Hofstra with biglaw in mind.

Hard not to have BigLaw in mind when your school costs $258,777 at sticker. Is a lifetime of IBR debt payments on their 40k non-BigLaw salary what looks pretty for Hofstra grads?

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby LionelHutzJD » Thu May 16, 2013 2:26 pm

North wrote:
LionelHutzJD wrote:
North wrote:
LionelHutzJD wrote:Right. But that's not my point. Pretty much what i'm trying to say is that not all TTT are TTT. Hofstra is very well known in NYC and if you do well (which I know takes a lot) you can come out looking pretty.

Only 51% of Hofstra's most recent class got jobs as lawyers AT ALL. Only 4% got a job as a lawyer in BigLaw. Is that what you think "looking pretty" is?

This TTT is TTT.



I really don't think many people go to Hofstra with biglaw in mind.

Hard not to have BigLaw in mind when your school costs $258,777 at sticker. Is a lifetime of IBR debt payments on their 40k non-BigLaw salary what looks pretty for Hofstra grads?



That 258,000 is absurd. I'm sure its counting literally every expense possible. You would obviously be stupid as hell to take out loans for every expense including full sticker price.

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby North » Thu May 16, 2013 2:29 pm

LionelHutzJD wrote:That 258,000 is absurd. I'm sure its counting literally every expense possible. You would obviously be stupid as hell to take out loans for every expense including full sticker price.

That's cost of living in Hempstead and tuition. What price do you think Hofstra would have to be for it to not be stupid as hell to go there? Be sure to include cost of living.

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby jbagelboy » Thu May 16, 2013 2:29 pm

LionelHutzJD wrote:
North wrote:Hard not to have BigLaw in mind when your school costs $258,777 at sticker. Is a lifetime of IBR debt payments on their 40k non-BigLaw salary what looks pretty for Hofstra grads?



That 258,000 is absurd. I'm sure its counting literally every expense possible. You would obviously be stupid as hell to take out loans for every expense including full sticker price.


The majority of the figure is tuition + interest. you might save $5-7K a year on CoL and $2K or so on health insurance/books, but even in the most optimistic scenario its $230,000+ and that's living below the poverty line for 3 years.

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby guano » Thu May 16, 2013 2:32 pm

LionelHutzJD wrote:That 258,000 is absurd. I'm sure its counting literally every expense possible. You would obviously be stupid as hell to take out loans for every expense including full sticker price.

Actually, it's fairly accurate for anyone who doesn't get a scholarship and doesn't live at home, which is easily half the student body
He'll, even if you plan to live off beans and toast renting someone's closet and borriwing books from the library, it'll be over $200k

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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby cwid1391 » Thu May 16, 2013 2:33 pm

It's the GPA, not the LSAT, that is going to hurt you in reapplying, though. The 156 can improve dramatically. Your best bet, as someone else said is to retake. Please don't go to these schools. Study for October and kill it, I bet if you can get a 165+ you'll have a few solid T1 choices and your chances are all that much greater if you have a top choice that you can ED at. Get a 170 and ED to lower T14. One of them will bite.

Edit: Realized after I posted that this thread had been necro'd.
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Re: Hofstra Vs. NY Law School

Postby LionelHutzJD » Thu May 16, 2013 2:35 pm

I'm not doubting the accuracy of the number, i'm just saying it's absurd for anyone to pay full sticker at a private institution, as well as living in NYC/Long Island.

I will be taking out some serious loans for tuition but that's it. Parents are covering cost of living and I will milk everything i can out of them for books and daily living essentials.




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