Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby 20141023 » Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:46 am

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby thesealocust » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:03 pm

Oh it's not that bad! I mean, I'm happy?

Now, uh, maybe don't ask me if my graduating class is happy as a whole. Or whether the people I know as first year associates from my graduating class or others are happy. Because look sometimes ignorance is bliss.

But I'm doing alright guys :D

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby TripTrip » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:05 pm

thesealocust wrote:sometimes ignorance is bliss.

"How are graduates of law school doing?"
"Eh, we kind of have a 'don't ask, don't tell' policy about that."

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby thesealocust » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:09 pm

TripTrip wrote:
thesealocust wrote:sometimes ignorance is bliss.

"How are graduates of law school doing?"
"Eh, we kind of have a 'don't ask, don't tell' policy about that."


S'io credesse che mia risposta fosse
A persona che mai tornasse al mondo,
Questa fiamma staria senza piu scosse.
Ma perciocche giammai di questo fondo
Non torno vivo alcun, s’i’odo il vero,
Senza tema d’infamia ti rispondo.

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby TripTrip » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:40 pm

To save y'all the Google Translate search:

This epigraph is written in Italian and is taken from Dante’s The Divine Comedy:

“If I believed that my response was heard / by anyone returning to the world, / this flame would stand and never stir again, / But since no man has ever come alive / out of this gulf of Hell, if I hear true,/ I’ll answer, with no fear of infamy.”

The speaker is Guido da Montefeltro, whose spirit Dante encounters during his descent into hell. Since Guido assumes that Dante is also dead and therefore cannot return to the world, he is willing to confide in Dante his sin of false counsel, for which he is punished by being encased in flame.

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby thesealocust » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:45 pm

Seemed appropriate, is all I'm saying...

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby TripTrip » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:48 pm

thesealocust wrote:Seemed appropriate, is all I'm saying...

Basically you're saying that we're on our way to hell anyway so you're willing to be honest with us: hell isn't that bad.

That's what I'm hearing!

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby skers » Sun Apr 14, 2013 12:54 pm

TSL, fucking fantastic post. You don't get enough credit for the work you do in the on-topics.

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Postby Mal Reynolds » Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:06 pm

TemporarySaint wrote:TSL, fucking fantastic post. You don't get enough credit for the work you do in the on-topics.


Really? I'm not sure if he gets credit or not but TSL and Rayiner are two of the GOAT in the on topics IMO.

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby Samara » Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:07 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:
TemporarySaint wrote:TSL, fucking fantastic post. You don't get enough credit for the work you do in the on-topics.


Really? I'm not sure if he gets credit or not but TSL and Rayiner are two of the GOAT in the on topics IMO.

+1 Unfortunately, Rayiner is working now and is rarely around. That guy was good.

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby skers » Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:15 pm

Mal Reynolds wrote:
TemporarySaint wrote:TSL, fucking fantastic post. You don't get enough credit for the work you do in the on-topics.


Really? I'm not sure if he gets credit or not but TSL and Rayiner are two of the GOAT in the on topics IMO.


Pls go to Northwestern.

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby Mal Reynolds » Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:24 pm

TemporarySaint wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:
TemporarySaint wrote:TSL, fucking fantastic post. You don't get enough credit for the work you do in the on-topics.


Really? I'm not sure if he gets credit or not but TSL and Rayiner are two of the GOAT in the on topics IMO.


Pls go to Northwestern.


You don't want to hang out bro?

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby thesealocust » Sun Apr 14, 2013 1:30 pm

Samara wrote:
Mal Reynolds wrote:
TemporarySaint wrote:TSL, fucking fantastic post. You don't get enough credit for the work you do in the on-topics.


Really? I'm not sure if he gets credit or not but TSL and Rayiner are two of the GOAT in the on topics IMO.

+1 Unfortunately, Rayiner is working now and is rarely around. That guy was good.


True story: Rayiner and I work within, like, 1,000 feet of one another. He's just insufficiently dedicated to the cause.

Also, I get plenty of adoration/circle jerking round these here parts (which is great, don't get me wrong - I wouldn't want my ego to feel malnourished for even a second). But thanks none the less :D

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby star fox » Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:15 pm

When you play the game of law school you either succeed or you fail, there is no middle.

Fair statement or not?

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby thesealocust » Sun Apr 14, 2013 3:17 pm

john7234797 wrote:When you play the game of law school you either succeed or you fail, there is no middle.

Fair statement or not?


Probably a little overstated. My personal favorite was from ATL a few years back:

Law school never loses, but it doesn't always have to win.

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby romothesavior » Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:05 pm

I was going to read thesealocusts' posts, as they are usually quite good, but I was so blown away by Renne Walker's insights that I think I know all I need to know at this point.

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby IAFG » Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:30 pm

thesealocust wrote:True story: Rayiner and I work within, like, 1,000 feet of one another. He's just insufficiently dedicated to the cause.

Well he has a fucking baby, so. But I heard he tricked his wife into taking the baby to the other side of the country for 3 weeks so he could focus on work and interneting.

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby thesealocust » Sun Apr 14, 2013 9:41 pm

IAFG wrote:
thesealocust wrote:True story: Rayiner and I work within, like, 1,000 feet of one another. He's just insufficiently dedicated to the cause.

Well he has a fucking baby, so. But I heard he tricked his wife into taking the baby to the other side of the country for 3 weeks so he could focus on work and interneting.


Sounds like a gunner to me.

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby Renne Walker » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:14 am

kappycaft1 wrote:
TripTrip wrote:
Tom Joad wrote:You can still back out.

Law school:
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If you back out, look what you will miss!

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby Tom Joad » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:20 am

Did you make that, Ms. Walker? That is a pretty awesome pic.

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby wannabelawstudent » Mon Apr 15, 2013 3:27 am

Tagging to read at work tomorrow.

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby kingjones59 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:32 am

TBF, I never really understood why people calculate COL into the total cost of law school. Yes, if you are coming out of undergrad and broke as a joke you are going to have to take loans out just to live. But for any non parent's-basement-dweller-till-26 person, you have to pay to live on your own once you graduate undergrad anyways. If you have some money saved up to cover first year COL, and you cross your finders for a 2L SA that will pay for a majority of your 3L COL, you are still looking at <200K at sticker for a T10. Taking out loans just to live exasberates the problem. With the Federal Clerkship+Big Law average around 66% for the C/O 2012 for the T10 and evidence pointing toward an increase in this for the C/O 2013, is it a great bet? No, absolutely not. But if you work hard to minimize your loans, there is still a good possibility of a favorable outcome.

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby romothesavior » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:55 am

If someone is paying for law school in cash or going PT while working then you may have a good point, but if someone is financing it all on debt, then total indebtedness at graduation is a critical number, and you have to include COL in that equation.

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby Ruxin1 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 9:59 am

kingjones59 wrote:TBF, I never really understood why people calculate COL into the total cost of law school. Yes, if you are coming out of undergrad and broke as a joke you are going to have to take loans out just to live. But for any non parent's-basement-dweller-till-26 person, you have to pay to live on your own once you graduate undergrad anyways. If you have some money saved up to cover first year COL, and you cross your finders for a 2L SA that will pay for a majority of your 3L COL, you are still looking at <200K at sticker for a T10. Taking out loans just to live exasberates the problem. With the Federal Clerkship+Big Law average around 66% for the C/O 2012 for the T10 and evidence pointing toward an increase in this for the C/O 2013, is it a great bet? No, absolutely not. But if you work hard to minimize your loans, there is still a good possibility of a favorable outcome.


Yeah funny thing is, when I am working I don't like to pay my rent with 7.9% loans.

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Re: Remember when sticker at T10 seemed like a good idea?

Postby kingjones59 » Mon Apr 15, 2013 10:07 am

Ruxin1 wrote:Yeah funny thing is, when I am working I don't like to pay my rent with 7.9% loans.


kingjones59 wrote:If you have some money saved up to cover first year COL, and you cross your fingers for a 2L SA that will pay for a majority of your 3L COL, you are still looking at <200K at sticker for a T10.


kingjones59 wrote:Taking out loans just to live exasberates the problem.




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