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Postby 20141023 » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:48 pm

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby wannabelawstudent » Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:55 pm

Thanks again. You've done amazing work for all of us.

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Samara
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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby Samara » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:19 am

Much better chart, but I think this would be better expressed as some form of expected value/expected ROI. It wouldn't change the relative positions of the schools (unless you assign differing assumptions of raises) but it would provide a number that is more meaningful than an abstract "investment score." Unfortunately, you would have to do some speculation to account for clerkships.

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby AllTheLawz » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:32 am

Umm.. this is a really weird thing to chart and really gets to the point of trying to make data say too much by calling it an "investment score." For instance, say a school had a year where fed clerkships dropped by 5 percentage points while $160k jobs increased by 3 percentage points and unemployment increased by 2 percentage points. By your calculation, its investment score would have improved [(-$3000) + ($4800) +($0) = +$1800] despite the actual outcome of its class being worse.

Basically, outcomes need to be weighted or this doesn't work.

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby twinkletoes16 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:36 am

my brain hurts and i'm only one beer in help

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby bizzybone1313 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 12:43 am

It would be cool if you could send that to all the TTT's and we were able to see the look on their faces. Priceless like that Mastercard commercial.

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby sinfiery » Wed Apr 10, 2013 1:02 am

Awesome but I would definitely change that $0 salary to approx 20-30,000 (near minimum wage job)

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby justonemoregame » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:06 am

I think a job awaits you in the Office of the Dean, Univ. of N. Dakota

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby guano » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:13 am

Good work

Have you considered making a usable version where people can insert their scholarship info and have the percentages recalculate accordingly?
(Bonus points if you can add stip provisions as a straight up percentage factor)

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby RetakeFrenzy » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:30 am

Another amazing thread! Thank you :mrgreen:

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby 20141023 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:15 am

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby gregfootball2001 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:34 am

In-state Georgia's doing well in these threads. :mrgreen:

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby 20141023 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:40 am

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby TheNextAmendment » Wed Apr 10, 2013 9:24 am

kappycaft1 wrote:Yeah, one of the hopes of creating this spreadsheet, other than showing how bad of an investment many TTTs are, was to show how good some regional schools can be if one doesn't have lofty aspirations (academia, PI, AIII clerkships, biglaw, etc.). Even without using IBR or PAYE, one would likely be able to pay off their loans at many of these schools, and if they have ties, they might even find decent employment in that region.


Agreed. Good work.

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby DoveBodyWash » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:06 am

fuck WUSTL is so low on this list. :(

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby toothbrush » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:10 am

tag thanks

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby cm2015 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:49 am

gregfootball2001 wrote:In-state Georgia's doing well in these threads. :mrgreen:


:D :mrgreen: :D :mrgreen:

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby BlueJeanBaby » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:53 am

cm2015 wrote:
gregfootball2001 wrote:In-state Georgia's doing well in these threads. :mrgreen:


:D :mrgreen: :D :mrgreen:


Woo!! Thanks, kappycaft1, for making me feel like I've made a good decision (and for all the awesome info).

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby helix23 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 5:34 pm

Another good resource that should be added to mylsn.info!

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby BlueJeanBaby » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:04 pm

Sorry if this is an over-asked question, but is there incentives for schools to keep tuition low? Is this evaluated in the USNR rankings?

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby guano » Wed Apr 10, 2013 7:07 pm

BlueJeanBaby wrote:Sorry if this is an over-asked question, but is there incentives for schools to keep tuition low? Is this evaluated in the USNR rankings?

No and No

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby RetakeFrenzy » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:30 pm

guano wrote:
BlueJeanBaby wrote:Sorry if this is an over-asked question, but is there incentives for schools to keep tuition low? Is this evaluated in the USNR rankings?

No and No


I think they rather have an incentive to keep tuition rising as USNWR measures expenditure per student, and schools can always brag about how generous they are with scholarships by initially charging a lot of money. :(

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby jackbauer10 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 8:37 pm

Another great thread! Thanks!

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby 20141023 » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:31 pm

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Re: Law School Investment Scores

Postby phillywc » Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:53 pm

time to apply to UND




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