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NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:27 pm
by NoodleyOne
Alright, after forever, NYU finally came to me with the scholly offer, and it was better than I expected, so I now have a tough decision to make. Other than the obvious (retake/negotiate for more scholly), what do you guys think of my options:

NYU: 87.5k (105k) scholly
UVA: 105K scholly in-state tuition (5k off tuition per year)
NU: 90k
UMichigan: 75K

I think this still ends up as UVA winning it, but I feel that it's close with the more than half-offer from NYU. What say you? Goals are standard TLSer: BigLaw, maybe a clerkship if I have the grades but not something I'm going to hang my hat on. Geographical preference is Chicago, Philly, or NYC (basically anywhere but the South and the West). COA is as follows:

NYU: 182k at graduation
UVA: 120K at graduation
NU: 184K at graduation
Michigan: 169K

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:29 pm
by MKC
NoodleyOne wrote:Alright, after forever, NYU finally came to me with the scholly offer, and it was better than I expected, so I now have a tough decision to make. Other than the obvious (retake/negotiate for more scholly), what do you guys think of my options:

NYU: 87.5k (105k) scholly
UVA: 105K scholly in-state tuition (5k off tuition per year)
NU: 90k
UMichigan: 75K

I think this still ends up as UVA winning it, but I feel that it's close with the more than half-offer from NYU. What say you?


TLS fail. The answer should have been ED UVA. :lol: :lol: Now you have decisions to make. I feel like NYU COL would be a hell of a lot higher than UVA, so there's that. I'm pretty sure UVA still wins.

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:30 pm
by helix23
I predict people will want to know total COA at each and what you want to do/where do you want to practice.

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:32 pm
by sinfiery
helix23 wrote:I predict people will want to know total COA at each and what you want to do/where do you want to practice.

+1


use this to calculate COA
http://www.law.georgetown.edu/admission ... geid=61621

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:35 pm
by NoodleyOne
Thanks, estimate in OP are sans interest and at rates for 2013-14 school year.

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:40 pm
by hephaestus
I would take UVA. Its a great offer that would put you in a tremendous position. Since you dont have any impractical/special snowflake goals (eg International PI or whatever), go to UVA.

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:41 pm
by MKC
NYU only has the edge on UVA by 4% when comparing combined Biglaw and clerkship placement. 36K seems pretty steep for that kind of marginal improvement.

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:43 pm
by sinfiery
Based on tuition cost alone, I'd say NYU is the winner.


Where would you rather live for LS/any preference for where you work?

Do you plan to stay at biglaw as long as possible? Other aspirations after your debt is paid off?

From what I can tell, not getting a biglaw job is by far your worst outcome and for that reason I'd pick NYU. Gratz on the amazing scholarship btw.


If you would rather spend 3 years at UVA (Cheaper/bigger/etc) than NYU, UVA can be defended.


ETA: 182k vs 120k is actually pretty significant. If you just want biglaw, I'd probably go UVA actually.

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:45 pm
by Renne Walker
You have a 122 LSAT and want us to believe you are heading to NYU. Seriously?

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:46 pm
by NoodleyOne
OP Updated. No real geographical preference... don't want the South but will go where the jobs are. I plan on staying in Biglaw, since I'm used to long, awful hours of mind-numbing labor, so I think it's something that won't beat me down too much, but I'm also aware as a 0L I don't know shit and that could all change. My preference hinges on being debt-averse and wanting the best outcome... I have a pretty standard outlook. I'm going to use the NYU offer to negotiate at UVA, especially since I paid the deposit, but as it stands now here are my options.

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:47 pm
by NoodleyOne
Renne Walker wrote:You have a 122 LSAT and want us to believe you are heading to NYU. Seriously?

I have amazing softs.

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:49 pm
by Rahviveh
I like NYU here but UVA is also a great choice. I bet UVA ups your offer significantly though.

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:52 pm
by sinfiery
Renne Walker wrote:You have a 122 LSAT and want us to believe you are heading to NYU. Seriously?

Perfect.

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:54 pm
by Lavitz
If those COA numbers are accurate, then I'd lean UVA.

ETA: Do you have a strong preference for where you'd rather live for three years?

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:55 pm
by helix23
MarkinKansasCity wrote:NYU only has the edge on UVA by 4% when comparing combined Biglaw and clerkship placement. 36K seems pretty steep for that kind of marginal improvement.


Actually 3%

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 1:56 pm
by Law Sauce
Graduating UVA with 120k in debt is the correct answer. You will likely end up with the same outcome as you would have going to NYU and 120k is a manageable amount. If biglaw works out, you will likely be out of debt in 2-3 years.

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:04 pm
by Tom Joad
I would probably lean towards UVA, but NYU made the price right to be competitive. Kind of sad that 105k off sticker is still almost 200k in debt. :|

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:08 pm
by NoodleyOne
Tom Joad wrote:I would probably lean towards UVA, but NYU made the price right to be competitive. Kind of sad that 105k off sticker is still almost 200k in debt. :|

You just want to hang with me next year.

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:08 pm
by Real Madrid
MarkinKansasCity wrote:NYU only has the edge on UVA by 4% when comparing combined Biglaw and clerkship placement. 36K seems pretty steep for that kind of marginal improvement.


While I agree that OP should choose UVA, let's not base everything on one year of stats. Still, unless OP is gunning exclusively for NY, NYU provides a marginal advantage if it provides an advantage at all. It basically places on par with Penn, UVa, Duke and Berkeley in big law if you look at stats over the last several years.

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 2:12 pm
by DavidHasselhoff
NoodleyOne wrote:
Renne Walker wrote:You have a 122 LSAT and want us to believe you are heading to NYU. Seriously?

I have amazing softs.


Noodley, you are my hero - Truly! Because of you, I am going to retake June to boost my LSAT for more $$. I hope to see you @ UVA, if possible. I would love to work with you in person. I have been a long-time fan of yours, although I don't post very often.

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:32 pm
by kaseyb002
DavidHasselhoff wrote:
NoodleyOne wrote:
Renne Walker wrote:You have a 122 LSAT and want us to believe you are heading to NYU. Seriously?

I have amazing softs.


Noodley, you are my hero - Truly! Because of you, I am going to retake June to boost my LSAT for more $$. I hope to see you @ UVA, if possible. I would love to work with you in person. I have been a long-time fan of yours, although I don't post very often.


+1

Currently using his study guide for June retake. And he previously stated he got a 179 for the record.

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:35 pm
by dixiecupdrinking
I think NYU is worth it but it's close enough to go with whichever you like.

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:40 pm
by ph5354a
dixiecupdrinking wrote:I think NYU is worth it but it's close enough to go with whichever you like.


+1

Big difference between C-ville and the Village. Pick where you think you'll be happiest living for three years.

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:41 pm
by rebexness
Retake. :mrgreen:

Re: NYU v. UVA

Posted: Mon Apr 08, 2013 3:47 pm
by nebula666
NYU if you want NYC, UVA otherwise.