pastapplicant wrote:such a tough guy aren't you? those 12K in posts must have really built up your confidence.
Well it's certainly not my shiitake-mushroom-shaped penis or my rampant eczema that's doing it.
What school I go to doesn't matter at all. But if you're curious, I'm a 3L at one of CCN.pastapplicant wrote:dude do you even go to a T14 school right now? the amount of misinformation in your responses indicate that you are just another clueless 0L just spewing nonsense in every thread.
Yes, you are. I've had lots of contact with law firms. WE is helpful but it is a distant third behind grades and interviewing ability.pastapplicant wrote:No, I am not overstating the importance of WE. Maybe you would know this if you did some form of screeners of callbacks or had direct contact with law firms.
I really have no idea what to make of this statement. So, according to you, Student A (who is at median with no WE) will get passed over for Student B (who is bottom 10% of the class and spent a year waiting tables)? Yeah, that seems logical. Now maybe Student B was in i-banking for 3 years, wants to do corporate work, and interviews like a boss.In that case, maybe Student B would be the choice. My point is that a blanket declaration of "WE trumps grades" is simply dumb.pastapplicant wrote:And I meant that they do way better in terms of their actual grades. A lot of median students at T14 get passed over for people with "crummy" grades because of WE.
It was clearly not already established because there are people in this very thread who say that CLS can be worth sticker in certain circumstances.pastapplicant wrote:wtf are you talking about. it was already established that CLS was not worth sticker a long time ago. i was merely responding to your dumb post.
My join date is earlier than yours. And I never said CLS had a good PI office; I have no idea what that relates to.pastapplicant wrote:clearly you haven't been here long because CLS's PI office has been known to be really bad for a while now.
This world. Not everyone going to law school knows that they want to do M&A, or immigration, or personal injury, etc. If someone knows what it's like to be a lawyer, I don't see how there is anything wrong with going to law school and seeing what subjects they're drawn to. Being open-minded is actually a characteristic of good law students and good lawyers. Maybe you'll get there someday (but I doubt it).pastapplicant wrote:and in what world would it be smart to start investing in a nearly 300K education when you are unsure of what you want to do?
Again, I have no idea what you're basing this on. You think because CLS places most of it's students in biglaw that students can't get good jobs in other areas? Interesting. I'm not sure if you heard, but there's something called self-selection. In other news, Yale's clerkship prestige doesn't translate to those seeking biglaw.pastapplicant wrote:CLS's prestige isn't going to translate into PI at all. The amount of translates to academia or clerkships is negligible. it just shows how clueless you are when you actually defend going to CLS at sticker price for PI.
It depends on the PI job but yes, that's generally true. Nobody is disputing that.pastapplicant wrote:Maybe you will learn but getting a decent PI job right now and before has been almost always harder than hitting big law.
I think I'll hang around, mostly just to hear more about Bil's reproductive organs and skin diseases though.pastapplicant wrote: Just stop contributing to threads you know nothing about dude and passing out misinformation.
Paul Campos wrote:This is a cautionary tale in the making.
(1) OP is K/JD
(2) OP has zero WE.
(3) OP's reasons for going to LS sound suspiciously vague (What does OP mean by "public interest?" PD? DA? Legal services? Writing Brandeis briefs for the Environmental Defense Fund?).
(4) OP appears to know nothing about legal practice, as he notes that although he wants PI he's not averse to going to BigLaw for a couple of years to get "experience" Being a junior at a big firm is almost completely useless in terms of getting experience for any PI job. In addition, PI is getting more competitive all the time because of PSLF, and most PI employers have no interest in BigLaw washouts, since they can get top PI-committed people.
(5) There is no reason for a PI-committed person to ever go to CLS at sticker, since what CLS buys you (at $300K in debt) is a good shot at BigLaw.
In sum, OP appears to be a starry-eyed 0L who is thrilled by how he's getting into prestigious law schools, even though his reasons for going sound extremely dubious. He would be way better off taking his fancy undergrad degree and getting a job for a couple of years, preferably legally-related, but really any job would be better than K-JDing his way to $300K in debt while having some vague idea that he wants to be a lawyer of some sort. Plus this would give him a chance to bump his LSAT three points, which would be the equivalent of paying himself $150K.
Danger Zone wrote:pastapplicant wrote:such a tough guy aren't you? those 12K in posts must have really built up your confidence.
Oh, he went there.
quiver wrote:This world. Not everyone going to law school knows that they want to do M&A, or immigration, or personal injury, etc. If someone knows what it's like to be a lawyer, I don't see how there is anything wrong with going to law school and seeing what subjects they're drawn to. Being open-minded is actually a characteristic of good law students and good lawyers. Maybe you'll get there someday (but I doubt it).
bk1 wrote:Real Madrid wrote:I think it's time we dispense with "Is X Worth Sticker?" threads here on TLS. The overwhelming majority of posters on this board are extremely pessimistic and will answer with a resounding no regardless of the school being considered.
Or, you know, a lot of people legitimately think that no law school is worth 300k debt. But yeah, your retarded explanation makes a lot of sense too.