Class of 2012 Employment Statistics (new LST Score Reports)

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Re: Class of 2012 Employment Statistics (new LST Score Reports)

Postby jenesaislaw » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:23 am

guyonabuffalo wrote:
SportsFan wrote:
guinness1547 wrote:I'm curious about something. Northwestern's NLJ 250 placement was 51.43, while Cornell's was 44.27. But for firms with 101+ lawyers Cornell outperforms Northwestern 57.9% compared to 49.2%. What causes that kind of discrepancy?

NLJ has a lot of underreporting, and apparently Northwestern's NLJ percentage isn't computed properly (I read that somewhere on here, anyway).


Does this mean that the NLJ and the other stat (%grads sent to law firms with 101+ lawyers) are looking at the same thing? Does this also mean the non-NLJ stat is more accurate?


The NLJ and the % in 101+ were never looking at the same thing. The 101+ category includes more firms than the NLJ 250 for two reasons. First, because the NLJ 250 starts at more than 101 attorneys. Second, the NLJ does not include foreign firms.

I believe the non-NLJ stats are more accurate. The good thing about the NLJ figures is that they collected them from firms, rather than schools collecting from students and reporting to the ABA. If you don't think schools are lying to the ABA, then 100% go with the ABA numbers. (I am in this camp; it is incredibly unlikely that schools are lying to the ABA.)

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Re: Class of 2012 Employment Statistics (new LST Score Reports)

Postby guyonabuffalo » Fri Apr 12, 2013 2:51 am

Thanks for the explanation, jenesais!

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Re: Class of 2012 Employment Statistics (new LST Score Reports)

Postby Tier2Allstar » Tue May 07, 2013 3:37 pm

jenesaislaw wrote:
Tier2Allstar wrote:I am always curious about New Jersey schools and what employment looks like for the slew of state clerks all the schools have the year after. Like half of Rutgers-Camden had a State Clerkship.


Agreed. I think if the NJ schools are going to put this out there as the best path to work in NJ, they need to justify it with real data not anecdotes.




Posting this because I questioned it. Seton Hall at least attempts to address it. SH's viewbook reports that Post-Clerkship Employment of 2010 Graduates was 94%

72% Private Practice
16% Gov't Service/ Public Interest
4% Corporate/Business
2% Additional Clerkship
1% Temp or Per diem work
3% Unknown
2% Unemployed

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Re: Class of 2012 Employment Statistics (new LST Score Reports)

Postby twinkletoes16 » Mon Jun 03, 2013 12:19 am

Berkeley just emailed this link out a few days ago.

http://www.law.berkeley.edu/15134.htm

Interesting to compare their stats to LST's.

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Re: Class of 2012 Employment Statistics (new LST Score Reports)

Postby jenesaislaw » Mon Jun 03, 2013 1:52 pm

Identical underlying data, just different presentation.

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Postby cahwc12 » Wed Jul 10, 2013 8:46 am

Sorry if this has been answered before or if it's the wrong place to ask, but wasn't the salary data supposed to be released in june? Why is it now september? Thanks for all that you do.

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Postby jenesaislaw » Thu Jul 11, 2013 5:20 pm

cahwc12 wrote:Sorry if this has been answered before or if it's the wrong place to ask, but wasn't the salary data supposed to be released in june? Why is it now september? Thanks for all that you do.


NALP provided schools with reports in June last year, but it's been delayed so far. Not sure why.

We are rolling out a revamped Score Reports, with significant customizations possible for users, in September. That's why it now says September.

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Postby john1990 » Sat Sep 21, 2013 12:14 am

This thread comes in handy a lot. Great thread

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Postby jenesaislaw » Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:18 am

john1990 wrote:This thread comes in handy a lot. Great thread

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Happy to hear it. I'm working on the site now to improve the user experience. I hope we can release the new version within the month.

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Postby cahwc12 » Mon Oct 07, 2013 8:33 pm

jenesaislaw wrote:
john1990 wrote:This thread comes in handy a lot. Great thread

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Happy to hear it. I'm working on the site now to improve the user experience. I hope we can release the new version within the month.


looking forward to it! I can't tell you how good it feels sharing your website with people who just have no idea. If only this site existed when I was still in undergrad...

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Postby jenesaislaw » Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:11 am

Well, I can't tell you how good it feels hearing that. Keep spreading!

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Re: Class of 2012 Employment Statistics (new LST Score Reports)

Postby californiauser » Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:33 pm

Question: Could the category of "Employed in 100+ firms" include staff attorneys, too? Are recent grads hired as staff attorneys at big firms?

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Postby jenesaislaw » Wed Feb 05, 2014 11:16 pm

californiauser wrote:Question: Could the category of "Employed in 100+ firms" include staff attorneys, too? Are recent grads hired as staff attorneys at big firms?


Yes, definitely. Staff attorney positions are usually full-time and long-term jobs at law firms. A certain weakness in the data with no cure in sight.

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Re: Class of 2012 Employment Statistics (new LST Score Reports)

Postby ColbyBryant » Mon Feb 24, 2014 4:31 pm

I may be late to the show here, but does anybody know when we can expect to see the LST employment scores for the class of 2013? Thanks!

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Postby jenesaislaw » Mon Feb 24, 2014 5:00 pm

ColbyBryant wrote:I may be late to the show here, but does anybody know when we can expect to see the LST employment scores for the class of 2013? Thanks!


Mid to late April. See more details here: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=223959




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