dixiecupdrinking wrote:I have seen so many 0Ls posting things lately like, "Definitely take CLS and don't look back!" (sorry to call you out, redfactor, just an example). Or, someone in another thread suggesting that they thought the experience of going to Harvard is worth borrowing $200,000 over a full ride at Chicago. People fetishize certain prestigious schools before they attend. I am here to tell you that there will be almost no difference between the experience of attending Berkeley and CLS. There will be almost no difference between attending Harvard or Chicago. The thrill of saying "I go to ____ Law School" will fade in about six weeks and then you will be in the same grind you'd be in no matter where you went to school. 95% of the people will be the same. The work will be almost precisely the same. The professors will be culled from the exact same tiny pool of Yale and Harvard graduates who teach at every top school. The only differences are physical location and what jobs you will get. A lot of the people posting on here need to stop glamorizing what your life will be like with a COLUMBIA LAW SCHOOL degree et al. It's all the same shit and Columbia versus Berkeley should not be a $100,000 decision, I don't care who's paying.
I take no offense. I don't think you've accurately depicted my position, though.
Do people fetishize certain schools? Yes. Absolutely. Here is the question for you, now. Do you honestly think that stops once you have graduated and gotten your first job? I would argue it doesnt.
If OP wants to move to DC, some of his professional connections may not give a Berkeley degree the credit it deserves. They may think, Berkeley is overrated. UVa is the shit of public schools. Same can be found in the Michigan, Texas, Washington, North Carolina or any other state with a top tier public system whether or not their law school is decent.
Columbia doesn't have that problem. Wherever you go in this country, a law degree from Columbia will give you instant legitimacy (deserved or not). The difference will be even more apparent if the contacts / clients are not in law or have no idea about law rankings or which schools are good.
If he chooses to do biglaw (I understand that is not his desired path right now), Columbia Law degree can help too. Easier sell to clients as to why they are being billed x dollars an hour for someone who has little experience. It may also help when it comes time for exit options or becoming partner track.
Point is, law school and the first job may place these two schools on almost equal footing, but CLS has the potential to widen the gap as his career goes on - in any direction he decides to take it.
His folks probably understand this, hence why they want him to take that route. Instant legitimacy anyone in the country. That's true portability.
I liken it to my experiences. I am a Marine combat veteran. I served in Afghanistan in 2010 doing some unfun things. I am fully aware that many Soldiers did similar unfun things in Afghanistan and deserve equal respect and admiration. But when word gets out that I am a Marine, I am treated differently than them. It's that instant legitimacy and it IS powerful.
Berkeley has that instant legitimacy in California and within the legal market to a certain extent. Columbia has that instant legitimacy across any state and profession, IMO.