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Personalized Rankings

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:45 am

LSATSCORES2012 wrote:So I took this down off the website, but I'm trying to make something equivalent in a spreadsheet form. Here's a really early version to play around with if anyone is interested... https://www.dropbox.com/s/271ibwj7aenwffg/rkgs.xls

Just has employment data and COA for now...
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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby RetakeFrenzy » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:54 am

very interesting!

Thank you :D

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Postby 20141023 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 10:49 am

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby star fox » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:26 pm

kappycaft1 wrote:Thanks again for your work on this kind of stuff! :wink:

I was surprised to see that NU got a higher score than UChicago when I set it to focus only on big law - both for IL and for NY. (I took clerkships and academia out of the equation, which probably skewed it a little bit.) This is definitely fun to play with.


NU's focus on employers desires (such as really only taking students with work experience) seems to be paying off with the way they place. Definitely worth whatever hit to admissions they take that puts them towards the end of the T14 in US News.

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby FlowBro » Sun Mar 24, 2013 12:38 pm

Once academia is out of the picture, NU truly outperforms its ranking. Great tool!

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby haus » Sun Mar 24, 2013 1:03 pm

Thank you.

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby JaviSTB » Sun Mar 24, 2013 3:31 pm

wow, thanks this is so helpful

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:36 pm

Thanks for the feedback, guys! Just added cost of attendance, and tweaked the default ratios a little bit.

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby Micdiddy » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:48 pm

Since it's one of the few schools that has admitted me, I'm also pleasantly surprised by NU's performance. Focusing just on Cali big law it was 3rd behind Stanford and Berkeley. Impressive.

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby po1 » Sun Mar 24, 2013 4:51 pm

Thank you!

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby Varys » Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:06 pm

This is interesting. So supposedly English/Literature and Soc/Psych/Anth all give you a boost? Those each seem like pretty easy degrees to be giving a boost unless it has more to do with reading and writing requirements of those majors.

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby smaug_ » Sun Mar 24, 2013 5:23 pm

Varys wrote:This is interesting. So supposedly English/Literature and Soc/Psych/Anth all give you a boost? Those each seem like pretty easy degrees to be giving a boost unless it has more to do with reading and writing requirements of those majors.
Nothing gets a boost. Quit saying this. You were told this in another thread and even if there were a boost it wouldn't match the topic of the thread.

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby Varys » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:26 pm

hibiki wrote:
Varys wrote:This is interesting. So supposedly English/Literature and Soc/Psych/Anth all give you a boost? Those each seem like pretty easy degrees to be giving a boost unless it has more to do with reading and writing requirements of those majors.
Nothing gets a boost. Quit saying this. You were told this in another thread and even if there were a boost it wouldn't match the topic of the thread.


It's not on topic? It is regarding material on the website that he provided via the link. Yep, pretty on topic. I do realize that those numbers though should be taken with a grain of salt, it is just interesting to see how they may be interpreted.

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby stuckinthemiddle » Sun Mar 24, 2013 6:57 pm

Interesting. Thanks for this.

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby Yukos » Sun Mar 24, 2013 7:12 pm

Varys wrote:
hibiki wrote:
Varys wrote:This is interesting. So supposedly English/Literature and Soc/Psych/Anth all give you a boost? Those each seem like pretty easy degrees to be giving a boost unless it has more to do with reading and writing requirements of those majors.
Nothing gets a boost. Quit saying this. You were told this in another thread and even if there were a boost it wouldn't match the topic of the thread.


It's not on topic? It is regarding material on the website that he provided via the link. Yep, pretty on topic. I do realize that those numbers though should be taken with a grain of salt, it is just interesting to see how they may be interpreted.


You are completely off-topic. Please stop posting your inane "analysis."

Back on-topic, Making COA super important gets lulzy results like CUNY and University of Puerto Rico (that has a law school?) breaking the top 10. I have a feeling I'm gonna spend hours playing around with this (cause I'm a nerd).

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby Brixton » Sun Mar 24, 2013 8:32 pm

Yukos wrote:
Varys wrote:
hibiki wrote:
Varys wrote:This is interesting. So supposedly English/Literature and Soc/Psych/Anth all give you a boost? Those each seem like pretty easy degrees to be giving a boost unless it has more to do with reading and writing requirements of those majors.
Nothing gets a boost. Quit saying this. You were told this in another thread and even if there were a boost it wouldn't match the topic of the thread.


It's not on topic? It is regarding material on the website that he provided via the link. Yep, pretty on topic. I do realize that those numbers though should be taken with a grain of salt, it is just interesting to see how they may be interpreted.


You are completely off-topic. Please stop posting your inane "analysis."

Back on-topic, Making COA super important gets lulzy results like CUNY and University of Puerto Rico (that has a law school?) breaking the top 10. I have a feeling I'm gonna spend hours playing around with this (cause I'm a nerd).


I don't really even see analysis in the comment, just observation. Oh well doesn't matter.

Anyway, this will be a fun toy to play with. I can't help but play with "what if" scenarios.

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby M458 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 12:12 am

john7234797 wrote:
kappycaft1 wrote:Thanks again for your work on this kind of stuff! :wink:

I was surprised to see that NU got a higher score than UChicago when I set it to focus only on big law - both for IL and for NY. (I took clerkships and academia out of the equation, which probably skewed it a little bit.) This is definitely fun to play with.


NU's focus on employers desires (such as really only taking students with work experience) seems to be paying off with the way they place. Definitely worth whatever hit to admissions they take that puts them towards the end of the T14 in US News.


Its medians aren't what hurt it, it's the peer assessment scores.

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby star fox » Mon Mar 25, 2013 1:39 pm

M458 wrote:
john7234797 wrote:
kappycaft1 wrote:Thanks again for your work on this kind of stuff! :wink:

I was surprised to see that NU got a higher score than UChicago when I set it to focus only on big law - both for IL and for NY. (I took clerkships and academia out of the equation, which probably skewed it a little bit.) This is definitely fun to play with.


NU's focus on employers desires (such as really only taking students with work experience) seems to be paying off with the way they place. Definitely worth whatever hit to admissions they take that puts them towards the end of the T14 in US News.


Its medians aren't what hurt it, it's the peer assessment scores.


What do those entail?

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby drinion » Mon Mar 25, 2013 3:26 pm

This is great! I set the criteria to my own preferences, and it confirmed my interest in attending certain peer schools over others. Thanks!

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:12 pm

Just added a button so you can add scholarship info in to the cost of attendance... :D

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby alawstudentsometime » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:29 am

This has been really helpful; love it! Thanks so much. It's making this a tougher call tho :|

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby M458 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 7:12 am

john7234797 wrote:
M458 wrote:
john7234797 wrote:
kappycaft1 wrote:Thanks again for your work on this kind of stuff! :wink:

I was surprised to see that NU got a higher score than UChicago when I set it to focus only on big law - both for IL and for NY. (I took clerkships and academia out of the equation, which probably skewed it a little bit.) This is definitely fun to play with.


NU's focus on employers desires (such as really only taking students with work experience) seems to be paying off with the way they place. Definitely worth whatever hit to admissions they take that puts them towards the end of the T14 in US News.


Its medians aren't what hurt it, it's the peer assessment scores.


What do those entail?


Here's how USNews describes it:
In fall 2012, law school deans, deans of academic affairs, chairs of faculty appointments, and the most recently tenured faculty members were asked to rate programs on a scale from marginal (1) to outstanding (5).

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby you'rethemannowdawg » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:06 am

What does the program do if the input weights add up to more than 100%? When I clicked on the link, the defaults were employment 60, COA 30, USNWR 10, and Proximity 80.

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby JXander » Tue Mar 26, 2013 10:25 am

This is great, thanks!

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Re: Personalized Rankings

Postby LSATSCORES2012 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:31 pm

you'rethemannowdawg wrote:What does the program do if the input weights add up to more than 100%? When I clicked on the link, the defaults were employment 60, COA 30, USNWR 10, and Proximity 80.

You can make it add up to 100 if you want, but really you're just applying weights to the different factors, so it doesn't have to add up to 100. (I realize this is different from what I said in the OP, but it's all based on the same principle, you just don't have to limit it to 100.)

So, in that case, proximity would count as 80/180=44% (while employment is 33%, COA 16%, and USNWR 6%). Note that if you don't select a state for proximity, it will just ignore it, which is why I made that the default, thinking most people would just leave the state blank.




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