Between Penn and Berkeley. Help me with making a decion

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Between Penn and Berkeley. Help me with making a decion

Postby 5965 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:22 pm

I am debating between Penn and Berkeley. Although I will attend admitted student weeks for both schools, I want to discuss my concerns with TLS-ers first.

My biggest concern is finding a job at a firm. It doesn't have to be big, but the more prestigious, the better (obviously, I guess). I know some might be tempted to say, "For East Coast, choose Penn; for West, choose B," but I have no preferences when it comes to a location (I prefer CA slightly more, just because of its weather, but it's a minor point really). I am also highly interested in working in Asia, so regardless of a location, a school that will help me the most in finding a job at a firm is what I care about.

In addition, I am interested in corporate law.

I was leaning toward B because of its grading policy, but TLS-ers' constantly talking about Penn's high placement in big law adds to the difficulty of making a decision. I feel like much more students from Penn would be interested in working at big firms, so I wonder if it could be a bad thing as well by having to compete with many other peers (but there would be more 'firms' to apply at Penn thanks to its proximity to NY, I guess?). Also at Berkeley, I am curious if it is true that, unlike most TLS-ers say here, those from Berkeley trying to work at a NYC firm are better positioned than others from the east coast because only a few Berkeley students are interested in working in NY anyway, hence less competitive. I visited some of the major law firms' websites and looked up the schools their attorneys are from, and couldn't find a much difference in the numbers of graduates between B and P.

I would appreciate if you could give me some advice based on the factors I mentioned I care the most. Thank you so much!

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Re: Between Penn and Berkeley. Help me with making a decion

Postby worldtraveler » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:26 pm

Why do you want to go and work for a firm? The prestige? Money? You're 100% sure this is what you want?

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Re: Between Penn and Berkeley. Help me with making a decion

Postby JamMasterJ » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:28 pm

it completely depends on money, but all things equal, slight lean to Penn

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Re: Between Penn and Berkeley. Help me with making a decion

Postby jselson » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:12 pm

Isn't Wharton going to let Penn JD students take a semester of business school courses soon? For corporate/big law, that would seem to be a big plus.

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Re: Between Penn and Berkeley. Help me with making a decion

Postby Nelson » Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:33 pm

jselson wrote:Isn't Wharton going to let Penn JD students take a semester of business school courses soon? For corporate/big law, that would seem to be a big plus.

It's not going to happen during 1L before OCI and firms probably won't really care regardless so it shouldn't be a factor in your decision.

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Re: Between Penn and Berkeley. Help me with making a decion

Postby JamMasterJ » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:43 pm

jselson wrote:Isn't Wharton going to let Penn JD students take a semester of business school courses soon? For corporate/big law, that would seem to be a big plus.

though it may help in getting business sense, firms won't care.

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Re: Between Penn and Berkeley. Help me with making a decion

Postby Redamon1 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:00 pm

jselson wrote:Isn't Wharton going to let Penn JD students take a semester of business school courses soon? For corporate/big law, that would seem to be a big plus.


Berkeley allows law students to take classes at other schools on campus, including Haas Business School. FYI.

Check out the the Boalt Qs thread for more info on geographical flexibility; TLDR: those who want to go or return to the East Coast usually don't have problems:

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=130044&start=750

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Re: Between Penn and Berkeley. Help me with making a decion

Postby TaipeiMort » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:10 pm

Penn is going to give you a better shot at Biglaw and cost less. Caveat: You are from San Diego, OC, LA, Bay Area. I would bet that people from CA with ties at Berkeley have a better shot at biglaw than generic people from uPenn.

Also, a Wharton certificate won't mean a thing in terms of getting Biglaw. It may mean something if you lateral in-house and want to cut over to the business-side of things, especially if you are at an org that actually lets lawyers do so (e.g., midsized enterprise, VC, PE, some F500s, etc.).

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Re: Between Penn and Berkeley. Help me with making a decion

Postby PRgradBYU » Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:22 pm

Is either school offering you money?




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