Desert Fox wrote:cahwc12 wrote:Desert Fox wrote:Stop making excuses for Yale's employment BS. People working in internships aren't employed even if their school gives them a stipend.
You seem to know a lot more about this than I do (which is admittedly not much). I have always been under the impression that these school-funded positions at HYS have always been genuine, and are just a bit more plentiful due to biglaw contraction. I have similarly believed that the CCN, UVA, GULC/GW school-funded positions have largely been employment gaming. I don't disbelieve you, but could you explain why you exactly you think these HYS positions are largely also BS? (Also, if I'm misunderstanding your argument, please explain.)
They have genuine ones. Most t14 have genuine fellowships. But they are for 1-2% of the class. But they all suspiciously exploded in size when student employment dropped. They are nonjobs created to pretend their graduates all have jobs. It's basically unemployment insurance.
Why do you believe that when yale creates " more plentiful due to biglaw contraction" that is not juking the employment stats. But when "CCN, UVA, GULC/GW" does it, it is "employment gaming." You seem to believe that because it's Yale, it can't be wrong.
Stop riding Yale's nuts.
I agree that the line shouldn't necessarily be drawn there. I guess my point is that while I feel confident that most of the school-funded jobs at UVA and Columbia etc are verifiable bullshit jobs, up until this thread I hadn't seen anyone call out the Yale jobs. Do you have any supporting evidence other than the convenient timing of the added jobs? I'm not trying to be hostile... I'm just genuinely curious.
I don't necessarily believe my assertions are correct... I just don't see any evidence to discredit Yale's school-funded positions (or harvard's or stanford's for that matter). Shouldn't it be a straightforward manner to figure out, at least anecdotally? Maybe the information is and has been there, and I can just only recall seeing stuff on UVA, Columbia and GW.
I just figured since you are so adamant about it, you must know something I don't. I'm not looking to get into an argument... I think I'm just in the group that would like to know the truth so that I'm not spreading or believing misinformation.