Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

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UCI full ride or UCB no money?

UCI
45
30%
UCB
105
70%
 
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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby peeonyou » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:06 am

Tom Joad wrote:
eav1277 wrote:How much debt at berkeley would you say makes it the better choice? So far u have been the only one to take uci. I'm more on the fence. Berkeley def has the name but the debt would def be a bit scary

Everybody is different, but I wouldn't be comfortable taking on much over $100 K in debt for the lower T14. I don't think there is a clear cut answer here, but I don't think OP should summarily dismiss his other options including the other CA lower ranked schools he got into. A huge reason people on TLS are obsessed with biglaw is because you need it when you have that kind of debt. But if you don't have that kind of debt, you just need a job. And anything else is gravy.

idk. if you do happen to be top 10% at the lower top 14, u have a veryyyyyy good chance of big law.

and if you do poorly after your first semester you drop out so yeah you can lose 35k but it's not like a 10% shot bec. even being top half gives you a decent shot at OCI.

at the lower ranked schools, even top 10% doesn't guarantee anything. it just puts you in the game.

never underestimate the time investment.

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby eav1277 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:07 am

Dr. Dre wrote:
eav1277 wrote:
Wat gf would u get if all u eat is ramen?



not a quality one, but that doesn't matter. I just want the support and (food + shelter).


At least ur honest. I respect that...

Where r u considering dre. U have some pretty good options if I recall correctly

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby peeonyou » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:08 am

rad lulz wrote:
matthewsean85 wrote:
Dr. Dre wrote:
peeonyou wrote:i think it's more realistic to slot them b/wusc and hastings and University of Maine Law.


Damn Dre, you might hate UCI more than Rad hates pretty much everywhere.

lol

Don't go to UCI. It's too much of an unknown.

In state sticker for Berk is just insane too.

what is your deal what do u do?

legitimately curious as to what your experience is in this whole lawlzy fest?

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby eav1277 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:10 am

rad lulz wrote:
matthewsean85 wrote:
Dr. Dre wrote:
peeonyou wrote:i think it's more realistic to slot them b/wusc and hastings and University of Maine Law.


Damn Dre, you might hate UCI more than Rad hates pretty much everywhere.

lol

Don't go to UCI. It's too much of an unknown.

In state sticker for Berk is just insane too.


Which is more insane? And how does it feel to be alluded to on tls? I think that def adds to ur tls cred.
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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby Aroldis105 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:10 am

Tom Joad wrote:
eav1277 wrote:How much debt at berkeley would you say makes it the better choice? So far u have been the only one to take uci. I'm more on the fence. Berkeley def has the name but the debt would def be a bit scary

Everybody is different, but I wouldn't be comfortable taking on much over $100 K in debt for the lower T14. I don't think there is a clear cut answer here, but I don't think OP should summarily dismiss his other options including the other CA lower ranked schools he got into. A huge reason people on TLS are obsessed with biglaw is because you need it when you have that kind of debt. But if you don't have that kind of debt, you just need a job. And anything else is gravy.


I agree with Joad. It could easily be 200k+ with COL. Nobody wants that kind of debt at any point in their life. If your goal is biglaw then take Berkeley, but if you'd be happy with anything else I'd go UCI. Their track record is "limited" to say the least, but it looks promising. Continue to do your research and try to find a way to talk with as many current 2L/3Ls as possible (maybe UCI will pay for part of a visit)

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby Dr. Dre » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:11 am

rad lulz wrote:
Don't go to UCI. It's too much of an unknown.

In state sticker for Berk is just insane too.


this.

both are insane, but having a TTTT stamp on your head is worse.

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby eav1277 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:13 am

Dr. Dre wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
Don't go to UCI. It's too much of an unknown.

In state sticker for Berk is just insane too.


this.

both are insane, but having a TTTT stamp on your head is worse.


Dre is tough. Lol. So where r u considering dre?

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby Ruxin1 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:14 am

This thread in 10 years: UCI or Boalt at 400k?

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby Dr. Dre » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:15 am

eav1277 wrote:
Dre is tough. Lol. So where r u considering dre?


I'm retaking this OCT. Fuck my TTT 167.

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby eav1277 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:17 am

Ruxin1 wrote:This thread in 10 years: UCI or Boalt at 400k?


Dang. That is insane. And the league is a great show. I love taco. ESP wen he bought the cowboys website

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby eav1277 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:18 am

Dr. Dre wrote:
eav1277 wrote:
Dre is tough. Lol. So where r u considering dre?


I'm retaking this OCT. Fuck my TTT 167.

He's even tough on himself. But with ur stats didn't u already get $$$ At most of the t10?

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby 99.9luft » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:20 am

If your goal is biglaw then take Berkeley, but if you'd be happy with anything else I'd go UCI.

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby Dr. Dre » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:21 am

eav1277 wrote: He's even tough on himself. But with ur stats didn't u already get $$$ At most of the t10?


No. I apply this Oct/Nov cycle.

and I'f tuff because I've realized that I'm not worth shiTTT. Law school is all about numbers, so I'm going to give em what they want.
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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby law2015 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:21 am

Go to Berkley. UCI is TTT.

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby Tom Joad » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:25 am

Ruxin1 wrote:This thread in 10 years: UCI or Boalt at 400k?

Well according my calculations, graduating at sticker from Boalt would leave him with $234,000 in debt (including interest during school and not including tuition increases). And if he can't find a good job and can't pay his loans, it only takes 9 years from graduation before interest puts him well over $400,000 in debt. The future is now.

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby 99.9luft » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:27 am

TLS elitism at its best...what's probably going to be a top-30 school in its debut ranking year is now apparently a TTT. Beyond idiotic.

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby rad lulz » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:30 am

99.9luft wrote:TLS elitism at its best...what's probably going to be a top-30 school in its debut ranking year is now apparently a TTT. Beyond idiotic.

Who gives a shit what it's ranked. I don't.

It's too much of an unknown.

Chem could make some calls and get good results for that first talented class.

But not that the class is way bigger and the capital to work connections is running out, it's too much of an unknown.

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby Dr. Dre » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:30 am

rad lulz wrote:Who gives a shit what it's ranked. I don't.

It's too much of an unknown.

Chem could make some calls and get good results for that first talented class.

But not that the class is way bigger and the capital to work connections is running out, it's too much of an unknown.


I fell like this guy is the only sensible person on this TTT of a thread

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby 99.9luft » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:37 am

rad lulz wrote:
99.9luft wrote:TLS elitism at its best...what's probably going to be a top-30 school in its debut ranking year is now apparently a TTT. Beyond idiotic.

Who gives a shit what it's ranked. I don't.

It's too much of an unknown.

Chem could make some calls and get good results for that first talented class.

But not that the class is way bigger and the capital to work connections is running out, it's too much of an unknown.


the fact that smth is unknown doesn't make it a TTT, nevertheless. For folks who want to practice in SoCal UCI is a more sensible choice than BU, BC, UW and plenty of other top 30 schools. Sure it's not going to compete with UCLA and USC in the foreseeable future, but its medians has been higher than Davis (which places decently regionally) which is already remarkable for an unranked school.

Besides, at least say First Tier Toilet, haha, and then lump in everything lower than USC for those who want to practice in SoCal, and only THEN this argument would start to make sense.

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby Ruxin1 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:55 am

99.9luft wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
99.9luft wrote:TLS elitism at its best...what's probably going to be a top-30 school in its debut ranking year is now apparently a TTT. Beyond idiotic.

Who gives a shit what it's ranked. I don't.

It's too much of an unknown.

Chem could make some calls and get good results for that first talented class.

But not that the class is way bigger and the capital to work connections is running out, it's too much of an unknown.


the fact that smth is unknown doesn't make it a TTT, nevertheless. For folks who want to practice in SoCal UCI is a more sensible choice than BU, BC, UW and plenty of other top 30 schools. Sure it's not going to compete with UCLA and USC in the foreseeable future, but its medians has been higher than Davis (which places decently regionally) which is already remarkable for an unranked school.

Besides, at least say First Tier Toilet, haha, and then lump in everything lower than USC for those who want to practice in SoCal, and only THEN this argument would start to make sense.


Decent? http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=davis ; I hardly think it's elitism, class size plays a big role breh.

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby Dr. Dre » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:01 am

99.9luft wrote:TLS elitism at its best...


it's not about elitism. it's about not getting getting screwed over by law skewls.

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby Golden Bear 11 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:18 am

Wait, what are Irvine's medians?

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby Golden Bear 11 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:28 am

Inaugural full-tuition class: 3.65 167

According to this: --LinkRemoved--

3.49 165 (not sure for which year)

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby 99.9luft » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:45 am

Golden Bear 11 wrote:Wait, what are Irvine's medians?


165 is what we hear is the median.


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Note: Chem said this app cycle, the medians look higher than those of last year's entering class. Since the #s of the Fall 2014 entering class will be the one that count for the 2015 ranking, it is assumed that next year's class will have even higher #s than this year's (fall 2013).

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Re: Irvine full scholarship or Berkeley no scholarship

Postby 99.9luft » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:48 am

Ruxin1 wrote:
99.9luft wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
99.9luft wrote:TLS elitism at its best...what's probably going to be a top-30 school in its debut ranking year is now apparently a TTT. Beyond idiotic.

Who gives a shit what it's ranked. I don't.

It's too much of an unknown.

Chem could make some calls and get good results for that first talented class.

But not that the class is way bigger and the capital to work connections is running out, it's too much of an unknown.


the fact that smth is unknown doesn't make it a TTT, nevertheless. For folks who want to practice in SoCal UCI is a more sensible choice than BU, BC, UW and plenty of other top 30 schools. Sure it's not going to compete with UCLA and USC in the foreseeable future, but its medians has been higher than Davis (which places decently regionally) which is already remarkable for an unranked school.

Besides, at least say First Tier Toilet, haha, and then lump in everything lower than USC for those who want to practice in SoCal, and only THEN this argument would start to make sense.


Decent? http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=davis ; I hardly think it's elitism, class size plays a big role breh.


FWIW, UCLA's isn't that much better: http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=ucla

In the Bay Area, Davis places well. UCI (out of that tiny class) has placed in LA, Bay Area, and SD (aside from the obvious OC). I think that's pretty damn good.

But again, i believe the glass is half-full.




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