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Re: T-14

Postby JO 14 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:48 pm

Crowing wrote:'87 is an anomaly; another set wasn't released until '90 and from then on the T14 has been static except for UT tying for #14 two years ago.

Actually, ’87 was not an anomaly, what happened was USNWR modified its rating criteria, thus the changes.

USNWR is changing its criteria for ’13, soooooo, what will happen this time?

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Re: T-14

Postby Crowing » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:57 pm

JO 14 wrote:
Crowing wrote:'87 is an anomaly; another set wasn't released until '90 and from then on the T14 has been static except for UT tying for #14 two years ago.

Actually, ’87 was not an anomaly, what happened was USNWR modified its rating criteria, thus the changes.

USNWR is changing its criteria for ’13, soooooo, what will happen this time?


I'm aware. It's still an anomaly: an anomaly is just something different; it doesn't itself imply anything beyond that.

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Re: T-14

Postby hephaestus » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:59 pm

ITT: Non-round numbers are arbitrary.

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Re: T-14

Postby 20141023 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:04 pm

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Re: T-14

Postby suralin » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:09 pm

kappycaft1 wrote:Here is a thing I made a while back that shows the entire history of the U.S. News & World Report Rankings for the T14.

As you will notice, the T14 are the only schools whose average ranks are less than 14.


As always, thanks for the data/charts/analysis.

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Re: T-14

Postby HBBJohnStamos » Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:53 pm

kappycaft1 wrote:Here is a thing I made a while back that shows the entire history of the U.S. News & World Report Rankings for the T14.

As you will notice, the T14 are the only schools whose average ranks are less than 14.


"T-14" exists independently of US News.

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Re: T-14

Postby Crowing » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:21 am

HBBJohnStamos wrote:
kappycaft1 wrote:Here is a thing I made a while back that shows the entire history of the U.S. News & World Report Rankings for the T14.

As you will notice, the T14 are the only schools whose average ranks are less than 14.


"T-14" exists independently of US News.


I do wonder about this - was it a term that people used even before the USNWR rankings existed?

We need some shitboomers in here. Where's dingbat? He's old enough, isn't he?

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Re: T-14

Postby Icculus » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:24 am

Crowing wrote:
HBBJohnStamos wrote:
kappycaft1 wrote:Here is a thing I made a while back that shows the entire history of the U.S. News & World Report Rankings for the T14.

As you will notice, the T14 are the only schools whose average ranks are less than 14.


"T-14" exists independently of US News.


I do wonder about this - was it a term that people used even before the USNWR rankings existed?

We need some shitboomers in here. Where's dingbat? He's old enough, isn't he?


Dingbat is dead.

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Re: T-14

Postby 20141023 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:00 am

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Re: T-14

Postby CR2012 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:03 am

So, do we have any idea who coined the phrase? I think we have a justification for the title, but how did T-14 become a commonly used term?

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Re: T-14

Postby izy223 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 12:08 pm

CR2012 wrote:So, do we have any idea who coined the phrase? I think we have a justification for the title, but how did T-14 become a commonly used term?


it was coined by Sir Thomas the 14th, the first known American to graduate from a "top ranked" law school.

who gives a shit

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Re: T-14

Postby DaleCooper » Wed Feb 20, 2013 1:59 pm

TheThriller wrote:Blatant pro-gulc trolling in here.

OP its the T13


:roll:

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Re: T-14

Postby North » Wed Feb 20, 2013 3:26 pm

izy223 wrote:it was coined by Sir Thomas the 14th, the first known American to graduate from a "top ranked" law school.

who gives a shit

Calm your tits, this is serious etymological research and, if useless, it's still kind of interesting.

Dingbat?

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Re: T-14

Postby jenesaislaw » Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:44 pm

CR2012 wrote:So, do we have any idea who coined the phrase? I think we have a justification for the title, but how did T-14 become a commonly used term?


I think it's an XOXO thing.

The older people I've talked to refer to the good schools as "the top 15 or 20."

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Re: T-14

Postby Yukos » Thu Feb 21, 2013 12:13 am

North wrote:
izy223 wrote:it was coined by Sir Thomas the 14th, the first known American to graduate from a "top ranked" law school.

who gives a shit

Calm your tits, this is serious etymological research and, if useless, it's still kind of interesting.

Dingbat?


I agree it's interesting. You have my +1 to keep on asking questions.

But as you've already been informed, Dingbat is dead.

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Re: T-14

Postby North » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:00 am

Yukos wrote:But as you've already been informed, Dingbat is dead.

I know he dropped out of LS for the fancy job, did he bail on TLS too? I don't lounge lurk enough.

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Re: T-14

Postby Crowing » Thu Feb 21, 2013 1:08 am

North wrote:
Yukos wrote:But as you've already been informed, Dingbat is dead.

I know he dropped out of LS for the fancy job, did he bail on TLS too? I don't lounge lurk enough.


He wasn't gonna originally but then he did anyway.

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Re: T-14

Postby North » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:12 am

Crowing wrote:
North wrote:
Yukos wrote:But as you've already been informed, Dingbat is dead.

I know he dropped out of LS for the fancy job, did he bail on TLS too? I don't lounge lurk enough.


He wasn't gonna originally but then he did anyway.

Weak. I liked DB.

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Re: T-14

Postby Crowing » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:26 am

North wrote:
Crowing wrote:
North wrote:
Yukos wrote:But as you've already been informed, Dingbat is dead.

I know he dropped out of LS for the fancy job, did he bail on TLS too? I don't lounge lurk enough.


He wasn't gonna originally but then he did anyway.

Weak. I liked DB.


He wasn't rude enough for TLS.

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Re: T-14

Postby Big Dog » Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:33 am

I do wonder about this - was it a term that people used even before the USNWR rankings existed?


Negative. It is a term that evolved because of USNews. The top 14 have essentially been the same since USNews started ranking law schools. (Texas and UCLA have snuck into #14.) But more importantly, the T14 have all ascended to the top 10 at one time or another. (And this is why Vandy and UCLA have a big leap ahead if they are to strive to enter the halls of T15.)

Note however, USNews does not use the term itself. It has just become common knowledge.




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