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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby curious66 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:11 am

qwertyboard wrote:it was leaked that members of the top 10 group remain the same.. I bet that Penn and Berkley will change positions.. does it matter? no


Wasn't exactly leaked.. USNWR published it as a sneek peak. :).

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby qwertyboard » Mon Mar 11, 2013 10:21 am

that's right

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby MikeSpivey » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:02 am

Law School deans have them (I do not). But I do know based on a VERY brief email I just received that at first glance there were no major, or indeed perhaps no, methodological changes. So I do not anticipate anything crazy outside of perhaps a few schools not gaming this year and a few schools gaming to the nth degree.

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby Sheffield » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:11 am

Thought I might get lucky at B&N (Rittenhouse Square), but it is not there yet. Ohhhh well.

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby Jeremyl » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:38 am

MikeSpivey wrote:Law School deans have them (I do not). But I do know based on a VERY brief email I just received that at first glance there were no major, or indeed perhaps no, methodological changes. So I do not anticipate anything crazy outside of perhaps a few schools not gaming this year and a few schools gaming to the nth degree.


I thought they were adding some new employment numbers, no?

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby somewhatwayward » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:42 am

Sheffield wrote:Thought I might get lucky at B&N (Rittenhouse Square), but it is not there yet. Ohhhh well.


Aren't you already in law school? Why do you care about getting it so early?

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby MikeSpivey » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:43 am

Jeremyl wrote:
MikeSpivey wrote:Law School deans have them (I do not). But I do know based on a VERY brief email I just received that at first glance there were no major, or indeed perhaps no, methodological changes. So I do not anticipate anything crazy outside of perhaps a few schools not gaming this year and a few schools gaming to the nth degree.


I thought they were adding some new employment numbers, no?


Well, I think there may have been some employment changes in the methodology but until I actually see the rankings I don't want to guess.

I imagine they will be leaked by someone in the next few hours as historically that seems par for the course.

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby Sheffield » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:45 am

somewhatwayward wrote:
Sheffield wrote:Thought I might get lucky at B&N (Rittenhouse Square), but it is not there yet. Ohhhh well.


Aren't you already in law school? Why do you care about getting it so early?

Hard to say other than to see if we made T6.

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby Big Dog » Mon Mar 11, 2013 11:59 am

I do not anticipate anything crazy outside of perhaps a few schools not gaming this year and a few schools gaming to the nth degree.


Is that any different than any other year, Mike? :mrgreen:

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby wannabelawstudent » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:36 pm

Sheffield wrote:Thought I might get lucky at B&N (Rittenhouse Square), but it is not there yet. Ohhhh well.

Yeah dude it's not going be for sale in print for another month.

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby MikeSpivey » Mon Mar 11, 2013 12:57 pm

Big Dog wrote:
I do not anticipate anything crazy outside of perhaps a few schools not gaming this year and a few schools gaming to the nth degree.


Is that any different than any other year, Mike? :mrgreen:


Nope :) Word is that Illinois got slammed. Not much movement at all in T-14.

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby togepi » Mon Mar 11, 2013 1:06 pm

Should be a shitshow thatll make a tuesday go by faster at work

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby 005618502 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:47 pm

I cant tell who is joking and who is not. But for those who are not, why do you actually give a shit what the order of the T10 schools is? We know its the same schools, do you think if a couple schools switch spots it will actually make a difference? Most people going to law school are at least a little rational...

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby Aroldis105 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:53 pm

AssumptionRequired wrote:I cant tell who is joking and who is not. But for those who are not, why do you actually give a shit what the order of the T10 schools is? We know its the same schools, do you think if a couple schools switch spots it will actually make a difference? Most people going to law school are at least a little rational...


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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby star fox » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:54 pm

Why does Michigan constantly out-rank Northwestern? The latter has way better job placement. I personally view Michigan as being a lower T14 while Northwestern has the feel of a middle T14. Anyone know what accounts for US News ranking them higher?

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby pedestrian » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:54 pm

AssumptionRequired wrote:I cant tell who is joking and who is not. But for those who are not, why do you actually give a shit what the order of the T10 schools is? We know its the same schools, do you think if a couple schools switch spots it will actually make a difference? Most people going to law school are at least a little rational...


Assumes facts not in evidence

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby star fox » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:55 pm

MikeSpivey wrote:
Big Dog wrote:
I do not anticipate anything crazy outside of perhaps a few schools not gaming this year and a few schools gaming to the nth degree.


Is that any different than any other year, Mike? :mrgreen:


Nope :) Word is that Illinois got slammed. Not much movement at all in T-14.


Again? I know they got beat up really badly with that whole lying and gaming the system thing. Are they still getting screwed for that or is it more a result of bad job placement?

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby star fox » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:58 pm

rad lulz wrote:
JamesDean1955 wrote:I think we can all agree that if a graduate is able to secure a position at any hard to attain PI job (whether that's 100% of all PI jobs, or 90%, etc.), said graduate would have been able to attain biglaw and/or an AIII clerkship.

Nope

Big firms look at two things primarily - grades/ties

Public interest orgs may care about grades to some degree, but depending on who is doing the hiring, commitment and experience may be more valuable as well as network to even get you the interview

Goddamn 0Ls


When people say ties are they just referring to where you're from? (i.e. if you're from New York originally and have family there you have a way better shot at getting a NYC BigLaw job than someone who is originally from Maryland)

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby kingjones59 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:01 pm

NYC is actually where ties matter the least, if at all. If you were born and raised NYC you are actually at a disadvantage compared to everyone else, as you have no ties to secondary markets.

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby AMilfordMan » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:01 pm

john7234797 wrote:
MikeSpivey wrote:
Big Dog wrote:
I do not anticipate anything crazy outside of perhaps a few schools not gaming this year and a few schools gaming to the nth degree.


Is that any different than any other year, Mike? :mrgreen:


Nope :) Word is that Illinois got slammed. Not much movement at all in T-14.


Again? I know they got beat up really badly with that whole lying and gaming the system thing. Are they still getting screwed for that or is it more a result of bad job placement?


Class of 2015 medians took a pretty good hit. That certainly didn't help. As I've read elsewhere though, it's hard to believe Illinois would drop any lower than Wisconsin or Ohio State given their similar medians but UIUCs superior placement.

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby law2015 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:07 pm

LOL at UIUC!

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby rad lulz » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:16 pm

john7234797 wrote:Why does Michigan constantly out-rank Northwestern? The latter has way better job placement. I personally view Michigan as being a lower T14 while Northwestern has the feel of a middle T14. Anyone know what accounts for US News ranking them higher?

Rankings are based on things other than job placement?

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby 04102014 » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:18 pm

rad lulz wrote:
john7234797 wrote:Why does Michigan constantly out-rank Northwestern? The latter has way better job placement. I personally view Michigan as being a lower T14 while Northwestern has the feel of a middle T14. Anyone know what accounts for US News ranking them higher?

Rankings are based on things other than job placement?


And your personal views.

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby btp » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:26 pm

What is the story with UIUC and this "gaming" everyone is speaking of? Is it one of those things where everyone probably does it, but UIUC were the only ones to get caught? I know Baylor got in trouble a while back, but I don't know the stories behind these schools.

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Re: 2014 Rankings Waiting Thread

Postby alwayssunnyinfl » Mon Mar 11, 2013 3:27 pm

btp wrote:What is the story with UIUC and this "gaming" everyone is speaking of? Is it one of those things where everyone probably does it, but UIUC were the only ones to get caught? I know Baylor got in trouble a while back, but I don't know the stories behind these schools.


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