2014 Rankings Released Forum

[ManOfTheMinute]

YO OP ... assuming HLS and SLS tie, I don't think putting a -1 next to SLS is right. that is all.

[alwayssunnyinfl]

How much did you get from UCI?

[Wakelaw15]

Where is WFU in the leaked rankings?

[Bildungsroman]

If the info on the front page is right expect the employers to flock to Alabama IN DROVES.

[Dmini7]

Where is WFU in the leaked rankings?

All we know is that it went up. I would bet it managed to get in the thirties since it apparently went up enough for Mike to notice/comment on its movement.

[Cobretti]

Edit: guess I can't link directly to a particular school, but you can look it up from there

23.21% in NLJ250. Class size is small, however.

Right, but even if it drops to half that, it would be around 34 for that ranking. However, this is also a school with a very strong PI focus so that rank isn't even focusing on what Chemerinsky is guiding them towards. Their clerkship numbers were also an incredibly high %. The point is UCI is very clearly a T1. It will probably start at USNWR 35-45 IMO, calling it a TTT is ridiculous. Telling people to go to USD/loyola over it is also ridiculous.

Oh, I didn't realize people were saying that. Yeah, that's pretty ridiculous.


Take a chance on UCI if you like Orange County / have connections in Southern California. Do not go there if you're from North Carolina and think you want to have a job in LA.

this guy

[Wakelaw15]

Where is WFU in the leaked rankings?

All we know is that it went up. I would bet it managed to get in the thirties since it apparently went up enough for Mike to notice/comment on its movement.

Can you link me? I'm not sure who mike is.

[Cobretti]

Where is WFU in the leaked rankings?

All we know is that it went up. I would bet it managed to get in the thirties since it apparently went up enough for Mike to notice/comment on its movement.

Can you link me? I'm not sure who mike is.

https://twitter.com/SpiveyConsult

[99.9luft]

where in the ranking equation is the alumni base and how much is it weighed? i thought the reputation, clerking, jobs, LSAT/GPA medians, faculty ratio, etc. are more important...but I may not remember the formula well enough.

I know UCI has decent LSAT/GPA medians, but, how much reputation can a school started in 2009 really have? Also, there's no jobs as of yet, as far as I know, since I think the first class graduates this year. Lots of unknowns.

I was mostly just poking fun. UCI could be a decent law school in the future. Right now, I'm too hesitant. I say it starts upper TT, maybe.

i know what you mean, but can we really expect a school to gain in reputation (hence in rank) in 5 years? 10 years?

I think UCLA being the newest top school is still hurt by its relatively new reputation, correct? And it's been around for what, 30 years?

I have an issue with the whole reputation criteria because it favors schools that have generations of alumni, so we can't expect UCI (or any new LS really) to acquire this peer reputation fast enough, despite its potentially great instruction and job placement, among other relatively faster-to-improve factors.

Another thing i don't understand is how regional is this reputation factor. For example, SoCal attorneys and judges may like UCLA a lot but it may not be enough to give it a true national swag. Same with UCI, potentially. Maybe it will be the rockstar of Orange County/SD markets but outside that it will have an unimportant/unknown reputation.

Anyway, just thinking out loud...

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[09042014]

CHICAGO BIGLAW CANCELING UIUC OCI BOOKING INDIANA

[Ruxin1]

Lol at 99.9's reasoning of BUT ONLY HALF THE CLASS DID OCI...yeah bottom of the class doodz probably had no shot anyway.

[99.9luft]

Lol at 99.9's reasoning of BUT ONLY HALF THE CLASS DID OCI...yeah bottom of the class doodz probably had no shot anyway.

haha, or they are PI ppl, maybe?

[dummy1]

That Washington Examiner story is now down...

[Davidbentley]

That Washington Examiner story is now down...

Obama's America.

[Wakelaw15]

Thanks for the link mrizza. I predict wfu at #39.

[byronmullens]

Last year rankings were released by this time and had countdown clock, I'd guess they won't come out until tomorrow around 8am.

[illini22]

Lol at Illinois...

At the end of the day, people care about jobs, and law firms will come (at least in the short term) either way. Illinois's NLJ 250 placement is twice as high as Indiana, Iowa, and Wisconsin. Almost twice as high as Minnesota. So.... Minnesota can keep the top 20 ranking, we can keep the jobs.. (the few we have).

[Username123]

Cooley at #2. Calling it now.

[Poo-T]

Thanks for the link mrizza. I predict wfu at #39.

I hope so. That would be awesome!

[Presidentjlh]

Cooley at #2. Calling it now.

With so much library space and access to water fountains, it's a given.

[Itinerant]

Lol at 99.9's reasoning of BUT ONLY HALF THE CLASS DID OCI...yeah bottom of the class doodz probably had no shot anyway.

haha, or they are PI ppl, maybe?

lol

Another thing i don't understand is how regional is this reputation factor. For example, SoCal attorneys and judges may like UCLA a lot but it may not be enough to give it a true national swag. Same with UCI, potentially. Maybe it will be the rockstar of Orange County/SD markets but outside that it will have an unimportant/unknown reputation.

Anyway, just thinking out loud...

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Cal and UCLA will probably be the only UCs to have dat national swag.

[99.9luft]

Another thing i don't understand is how regional is this reputation factor. For example, SoCal attorneys and judges may like UCLA a lot but it may not be enough to give it a true national swag. Same with UCI, potentially. Maybe it will be the rockstar of Orange County/SD markets but outside that it will have an unimportant/unknown reputation.

Anyway, just thinking out loud...

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Cal and UCLA will probably be the only UCs to have dat national swag.

agreed. But still doesn't resolve my question... How can UCLA achieve this national swag in 30 or so years since being founded when USC Law (founded in 1896) is still a regional (at best CA) school.

[Wakelaw15]

Thanks for the link mrizza. I predict wfu at #39.

I hope so. That would be awesome!

I think it will be #38, 39, 40, or 41, based on some calculations.

[EvilClinton]

Any verification on the leaked list?

[rad lulz]

If the info on the front page is right expect the employers to flock to Alabama IN DROVES.

DROVES

I TELL YOU