School selection help

(Rankings, Profiles, Tuition, Student Life, . . . )
mkelly
Posts: 7
Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:22 pm

School selection help

Postby mkelly » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:17 pm

Still in the application process but so far have gotten into the following schools

- SCU Law (15k/yr, can live at home)
-LMU (18k/yr)
-U of A (not sure about $ yet)
-UC Hastings (not sure about $ yet)
-USF (20k/yr)
-George Mason Law (not sure about $yet)
-American (7.5k/yr)
-USD (20k/yr)
-Chicago Kent (23/yr)

I want to practice in the silicon valley at a midsize firm either doing soft IP of litigation.
Any feedback would be appreciated!

Thanks!

timbs4339
Posts: 2733
Joined: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:19 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby timbs4339 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:24 pm

mkelly wrote:Still in the application process but so far have gotten into the following schools

- SCU Law (15k/yr, can live at home)
-LMU (18k/yr)
-U of A (not sure about $ yet)
-UC Hastings (not sure about $ yet)
-USF (20k/yr)
-George Mason Law (not sure about $yet)
-American (7.5k/yr)
-USD (20k/yr)
-Chicago Kent (23/yr)

I want to practice in the silicon valley at a midsize firm either doing soft IP of litigation.
Any feedback would be appreciated!

Thanks!


What is your IP background?

mkelly
Posts: 7
Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:22 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby mkelly » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:25 pm

Not much experience.. I would have to do soft IP (copyrights or trademarks)... I'm open to other types of practice as well.

User avatar
Rahviveh
Posts: 2271
Joined: Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:02 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby Rahviveh » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:27 pm

What are the stips for these schollies? I'm guessing the USF and SCU schollies have harsh stips on them.

mkelly
Posts: 7
Joined: Mon Jan 28, 2013 7:22 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby mkelly » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:28 pm

The stips are top 25% of class at scu/lmu/usd/usf and no stips at chicago kent

User avatar
stillwater
Posts: 3811
Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:59 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby stillwater » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:29 pm

retake. hth.

timbs4339
Posts: 2733
Joined: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:19 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby timbs4339 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:29 pm

mkelly wrote:Not much experience.. I would have to do soft IP (copyrights or trademarks)... I'm open to other types of practice as well.


Well, unfortunately you are looking at biglaw hiring for IP then. The midlaw firms that do IP usually want a hard science degree or engineering background. A retake seems to be in order, unless you want to do criminal law or small law.

User avatar
bk1
Posts: 18421
Joined: Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:06 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby bk1 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:31 pm

None of these schools come even close to lining up with your goals. I'm assuming your LSAT is holding you back from the schools that would line up with your goals so you should retake the LSAT.

User avatar
stillwater
Posts: 3811
Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:59 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby stillwater » Tue Feb 05, 2013 3:33 pm

from these schools, shitlaw LOOMS.


your goals while noble are either greatly handicapped or impossible from these schools.

User avatar
romothesavior
Posts: 14772
Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:29 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby romothesavior » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:13 pm

bk1 wrote:None of these schools come even close to lining up with your goals. I'm assuming your LSAT is holding you back from the schools that would line up with your goals so you should retake the LSAT.

Yep, this.

None of these schools is likely to get you to your goals. Go play around on Law School Transparency's website and look at your job prospects. Atrocious, and not worth the debt.

User avatar
romothesavior
Posts: 14772
Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:29 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby romothesavior » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:13 pm

stillwater wrote:from these schools, shitlaw LOOMS.

Also, is this some new TLS/xoxo meme I'm not aware of? If so, I do like it.

rad lulz
Posts: 9844
Joined: Sun Feb 19, 2012 10:53 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby rad lulz » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:20 pm

romothesavior wrote:
stillwater wrote:from these schools, shitlaw LOOMS.

Also, is this some new TLS/xoxo meme I'm not aware of? If so, I do like it.

According to forum seach, he's the only on that says that.

User avatar
BarbellDreams
Posts: 2256
Joined: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:10 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby BarbellDreams » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:32 pm

Retake. Kent is really the only one that gave you a decent package even worth considering, but you will have close to no chance to come back to CA with a degree from Kent barring strong connection (NOT ties, CONNECTIONS).

User avatar
romothesavior
Posts: 14772
Joined: Fri Jun 26, 2009 4:29 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby romothesavior » Tue Feb 05, 2013 4:37 pm

BarbellDreams wrote:Retake. Kent is really the only one that gave you a decent package even worth considering, but you will have close to no chance to come back to CA with a degree from Kent barring strong connection (NOT ties, CONNECTIONS).

I agree with your conclusion to retake, but 23k/year from Chicago-Kent is hardly a package worth considering. That's still well over 100k in total COA.

User avatar
ndirish2010
Posts: 2950
Joined: Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:41 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby ndirish2010 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:40 pm

romothesavior wrote:
BarbellDreams wrote:Retake. Kent is really the only one that gave you a decent package even worth considering, but you will have close to no chance to come back to CA with a degree from Kent barring strong connection (NOT ties, CONNECTIONS).

I agree with your conclusion to retake, but 23k/year from Chicago-Kent is hardly a package worth considering. That's still well over 100k in total COA.


romothesavior, concurring in the judgment.

I agree, please retake.

User avatar
hephaestus
Posts: 2385
Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:21 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby hephaestus » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:44 pm

mkelly wrote:Not much experience.. I would have to do soft IP (copyrights or trademarks)... I'm open to other types of practice as well.

Firms won't hire IP associates who can only do soft IP. You should retake.

timbs4339
Posts: 2733
Joined: Sat Apr 02, 2011 12:19 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby timbs4339 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:54 pm

ImNoScar wrote:
mkelly wrote:Not much experience.. I would have to do soft IP (copyrights or trademarks)... I'm open to other types of practice as well.

Firms won't hire IP associates who can only do soft IP. You should retake.


Well they will, as long as they could get biglaw independent of their IP requirement. It's like sports law or international law- law students are lined up around the block to represent Google or Facebook and none of them actually have any credentials to do that sort of work, so it's just a regular biglaw hiring process.

User avatar
stillwater
Posts: 3811
Joined: Tue Jun 28, 2011 2:59 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby stillwater » Tue Feb 05, 2013 11:05 pm

timbs4339 wrote:
ImNoScar wrote:
mkelly wrote:Not much experience.. I would have to do soft IP (copyrights or trademarks)... I'm open to other types of practice as well.

Firms won't hire IP associates who can only do soft IP. You should retake.


Well they will, as long as they could get biglaw independent of their IP requirement. It's like sports law or international law- law students are lined up around the block to represent Google or Facebook and none of them actually have any credentials to do that sort of work, so it's just a regular biglaw hiring process.


Schools don't want the best lawyer, they want the most preftigious lawyer.

mr.hands
Posts: 892
Joined: Fri Jul 13, 2012 4:23 pm

Re: School selection help

Postby mr.hands » Wed Feb 06, 2013 7:05 am

bk1 wrote:None of these schools come even close to lining up with your goals. I'm assuming your LSAT is holding you back from the schools that would line up with your goals so you should retake the LSAT.


Yep. Soft IP in Silicon Valley is *incredibly difficult* (even for students at top schools).

Most of the schools you have listed can't even get half of their graduation class into *any* legal job. 1 in 3 American grads are working in full time legal jobs.

Retake and/or manage expectations




Return to “Choosing a Law School”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Socratease and 2 guests