ND ($) vs. Cornell

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ND ($) vs. Cornell

ND 22k/year
14
26%
Cornell Sticker
39
74%
 
Total votes: 53

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Charlie.Home
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ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby Charlie.Home » Wed Jan 23, 2013 12:01 pm

My cycle has boiled down to this decision: ND with 22k/year no stips or Cornell @ sticker.

Ideally I want to work corporate biglaw, & would love to work in Chicago but other places would be acceptable.

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Re: ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby twenty » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:04 pm

Tell Cornell you're stuck between ND and Cornell, and if they offered you 15k a year, you'd put down a seat deposit right now.

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Re: ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby clone22 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:06 pm

you want big law? cornell without a doubt

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Re: ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby balzie94 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:16 pm

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Re: ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby letsgoirish » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:43 pm

Cornell is a feeder for NYC, see Cornell placement data. If you are content with biglaw NY, that's definitely your move (from a Cornellian's perspective).

If Chicago is your town, ND will get you closer to biglaw there, but competition is steep for the major players if you're coming from ND (current ND law 2L with biglaw NYC job). You'll need a legit gpa.

You sound more intent on biglaw than geo region. Try to get money from Cornell and go there.

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Re: ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby BullShitWithBravado » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:45 pm

letsgoirish wrote:Cornell is a feeder for NYC, see Cornell placement data. If you are content with biglaw NY, that's definitely your move (from a Cornellian's perspective).

If Chicago is your town, ND will get you closer to biglaw there, but competition is steep for the major players if you're coming from ND (current ND law 2L with biglaw NYC job). You'll need a legit gpa.

You sound more intent on biglaw than geo region. Try to get money from Cornell and go there.

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Re: ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby ndirish2010 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:49 pm

Tell NDLS that you have a T14 offer and won't consider NDLS for less than 30K/yr. Also, negotiate w/ Cornell. I don't think Cornell is worth sticker, but if you want NYC biglaw, median from Cornell can get you there.

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Re: ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby cinephile » Wed Jan 23, 2013 1:51 pm

Neither option is great, both too expensive.

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Re: ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby bluepenguin » Wed Jan 23, 2013 2:45 pm

Cornell at least has PILIPP, although idk how strong it is. I thought ND's LRAP was pretty limited, but I may be mistaken. Might be able to minimize the damage from a bottom-third finish (assuming you can find a PI legal job from the bottom third at Cornell...).

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Re: ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby ndirish2010 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:07 pm

Our LRAP is pretty weak. It starts covering you at 54K I believe, but it isn't 100% until 34K.

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bluepenguin
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Re: ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby bluepenguin » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:22 pm

Isn't also subject to available funds? I seem to remember seeing that somewhere.

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ndirish2010
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Re: ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby ndirish2010 » Wed Jan 23, 2013 3:43 pm

bluepenguin wrote:Isn't also subject to available funds? I seem to remember seeing that somewhere.


This is true. I'm not doing PI, but I've heard the funds seem to be available for the past year or two. But it is always contingent.

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Re: ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby BigZuck » Wed Jan 23, 2013 5:15 pm

Neither seems to be the right answer. Unless you can get them both to come down in price significantly (I'm thinking 15k+ a year). Don't think that's gonna happen without a:

Retake!

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Re: ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby jcdjgd » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:44 pm

Cornell is not worth sticker.

ND will most likely offer you a lot more when you tell them about Cornell acceptance/negotiate. They doubled my scholly offer from 20 to 40 (per year) after negotiating, so go give that a try and enjoy ND with over half off.

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Re: ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby suralin » Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:59 pm

jcdjgd wrote:Cornell is not worth sticker.

ND will most likely offer you a lot more when you tell them about Cornell acceptance/negotiate. They doubled my scholly offer from 20 to 40 (per year) after negotiating, so go give that a try and enjoy ND with over half off.


Why do you say that? Cornell's NALP placement numbers are pretty damn good, particularly since OP wants BigLaw.

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Re: ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby Crowing » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:11 pm

I don't see why people ITT are so against Cornell sticker. I don't buy Cornell being any worse than the rest of the lower T-14.

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Re: ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby Tom Joad » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:22 pm

Crowing wrote:I don't see why people ITT are so against Cornell sticker. I don't buy Cornell being any worse than the rest of the lower T-14.

Cornell is fine. Lots of people just think HYS are the only schools worth sticker.

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Re: ND ($) vs. Cornell

Postby BigZuck » Sat Jan 26, 2013 7:34 pm

I could not see myself attending Cornell at sticker but maybe I could if I were younger, had different life circumstances, and I liked the location more. So that's why I said that, maybe I should have tried to remove my own personal situation from the equation.

I don't think paying sticker there is indefensible however.




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