jstr00az wrote:No it doesn't "affirm" (by which I think you mean "confirm") his quesstimate. He guesstimate was based on bullshit about "top this" and "top that". Why not look at actual numbers that answer the question about how well these schools do. You can't predict your success in law school - everyone is trying to get good grades and is reasonably smart. You can make estimates based on past school performance, and for all three of those schools, it's not good in NYC.
I do look at actual numbers. I don't limit it to just class of 2011; I have looked at NLJ250 for every year since 2005, and have looked at the NALP data for class of 2011, 2010 and 2009.
You also need to realize that if a school places 9% in biglaw, as you said for UMN, that doesn't mean the top 9%. Some people transfer out, and those are predominantly at the top of the food chain. A number of people in the class choose a clerkship over biglaw. A number of people are really bad interviewers. Some bid badly and others choose not to go to biglaw for any of a number of other reasons. What this means is that more than the top 9% are competitive.
Law firms have gotten more selective, so, to give one example where I got the numbers straight from the horse's mouth (they told me the GPA cutoffs), a firm that used to interview top 1/3 at my school now restricts interviews to top 1/4. That's still more than the school placed into biglaw in 2011.
Note that this is one of the biggest firms in the country; I'm pretty sure some lesser law firms are willing to interview people with even lower grades
edit: this firm is V10; I'm sure a V100 is less selective