Boston College v. University of Washington

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Where should I attend?

BC
27
71%
UW
11
29%
 
Total votes: 38

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Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby whatsup2b » Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:36 pm

Grew up and went to undergrad in California. Moved out to NYC to work for 2 years.

I love both Seattle and Boston so I don't really have a preference as to where I want to practice.

I find UW appealing because it's the best school in the Pacific Northwest but am concerned about the small legal market/lack of opportunities.

I also like BC because of its location (Boston, NYC, DC) but am concerned about the competition from Harvard, BU, Northeastern, and a bunch of other East coast schools.

Where should I go if I want more stability (employment prospects and legal market)?

Feedback and thoughts appreciated.

Thanks!

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby bluepenguin » Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:38 pm

Cost of attendance for each?

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby stillwater » Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:42 pm

Without ties to the Pacific Northwest you'll probably have an uphill battle. Boston may be a bit more receptive but you'll also face inquiries into your ties and motives. Cook up some ties bro.

Anywhere else you are thinking about?

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby whatsup2b » Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:52 pm

stillwater wrote:Without ties to the Pacific Northwest you'll probably have an uphill battle. Boston may be a bit more receptive but you'll also face inquiries into your ties and motives. Cook up some ties bro.

Anywhere else you are thinking about?


Good point. Still waiting on a bunch of T14s.

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby whatsup2b » Wed Jan 09, 2013 6:54 pm

bluepenguin wrote:Cost of attendance for each?


Waiting for scholly info in feb. Got in both schools early Dec.

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby Bronck » Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:05 pm

All things being equal I'd take BC. But, without information about scholarships and other acceptances, the inquiry is premature.

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby otnemem » Wed Jan 09, 2013 7:14 pm

BC placed 30% into Biglaw/Federal clerkships, and 68% total into long-term full time legal jobs.
UW placed 15% into Biglaw/Federal clerkships, and 51% total into long-term full time legal jobs.

If you really have no regional preference and don't know the cost difference yet, BC seems like a clear winner. However, you're going to need a significant scholarship to make either of these schools worthwhile.

http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=bc
http://www.lstscorereports.com/?school=washington

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby whatsup2b » Wed Jan 09, 2013 11:58 pm

Thanks everyone. Forgive me if I sound stupid but rankings don't really matter right? UW jumped to the 20th slot whereas BC has remained stagnant for the past few years.

Also to the person who voted UW - What's your reasoning?

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby rad lulz » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:00 am

whatsup2b wrote:Thanks everyone. Forgive me if I sound stupid but rankings don't really matter right? UW jumped to the 20th slot whereas BC has remained stagnant for the past few years.

Also to the person who voted UW - What's your reasoning?

Ya dude I predict UWs jump in the rankings will lead to employers fleeing stagnant Boston skoolz for UW in DROVES

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby Slevin Kelevra 2011 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 9:46 am

http://www.law.com/jsp/nlj/PubArticleNL ... 2543436520

When it comes to biglaw placement, these are not peer schools. If you don't want biglaw, go to whichever is cheapest.

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby cinephile » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:13 am

PM'd

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby ndirish2010 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 11:36 am

BC if equal COA. But don't go to BC at sticker.

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby suralin » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:15 pm

ndirish2010 wrote:BC if equal COA. But don't go to BC at sticker.


Also, ties. Get them.

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby ndirish2010 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:45 pm

Suralin wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:BC if equal COA. But don't go to BC at sticker.


Also, ties. Get them.


I think going to BC would be solid for Boston (though not as good as if you had grown up there obviously). That is probably not true of the PNW.

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby whatsup2b » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:51 pm

rad lulz wrote:
whatsup2b wrote:Thanks everyone. Forgive me if I sound stupid but rankings don't really matter right? UW jumped to the 20th slot whereas BC has remained stagnant for the past few years.

Also to the person who voted UW - What's your reasoning?

Ya dude I predict UWs jump in the rankings will lead to employers fleeing stagnant Boston skoolz for UW in DROVES


What I meant was does UW's jump in rankings improve employment prospects for UW grads in the PNW? Reputation, portability, etc.
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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby whatsup2b » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:53 pm

Suralin wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:BC if equal COA. But don't go to BC at sticker.


Also, ties. Get them.


Note taken. Network like crazy during 1L.

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby whatsup2b » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:54 pm

ndirish2010 wrote:
Suralin wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:BC if equal COA. But don't go to BC at sticker.


Also, ties. Get them.


I think going to BC would be solid for Boston (though not as good as if you had grown up there obviously). That is probably not true of the PNW.


Haha why do you say that? What do natives say of Boston?

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby A. Nony Mouse » Thu Jan 10, 2013 12:56 pm

whatsup2b wrote:
rad lulz wrote:
whatsup2b wrote:Thanks everyone. Forgive me if I sound stupid but rankings don't really matter right? UW jumped to the 20th slot whereas BC has remained stagnant for the past few years.

Also to the person who voted UW - What's your reasoning?

Ya dude I predict UWs jump in the rankings will lead to employers fleeing stagnant Boston skoolz for UW in DROVES


What I meant was does UW's jump in rankings improve employment prospects for UW grads in the PNW? Reputation, portability, etc.

Probably not, because UW is already the top school in the PNW (leaving aside whether Stanford/Berkeley place well in the PNW - I have no idea). Employers who already liked UW will still like UW, but employers who wanted someone from a national school (T-14 or whatever subset) aren't going say, I was going to hire this Harvard grad, but I'll go with the UW grad instead because UW jumped in the rankings. They're still entirely different categories of school.

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby francesfarmer » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:01 pm

whatsup2b wrote:
Suralin wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:BC if equal COA. But don't go to BC at sticker.


Also, ties. Get them.


Note taken. Network like crazy during 1L.

What is the deal with "getting ties"? Is this possible?

I apologize for the threadjack but does having extended family in the area count as ties?

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby Rahviveh » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:02 pm

francesfarmer wrote:
whatsup2b wrote:
Suralin wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:BC if equal COA. But don't go to BC at sticker.


Also, ties. Get them.


Note taken. Network like crazy during 1L.

What is the deal with "getting ties"? Is this possible?

I apologize for the threadjack but does having extended family in the area count as ties?


In my case finding a spouse in my target market within the next 12 months 8)

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby Icculus » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:12 pm

whatsup2b wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:
Suralin wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:BC if equal COA. But don't go to BC at sticker.


Also, ties. Get them.


I think going to BC would be solid for Boston (though not as good as if you had grown up there obviously). That is probably not true of the PNW.


Haha why do you say that? What do natives say of Boston?


I grew up in Boston, and I can tell you it is a very insular city. Having never lived there you are going to need a compelling story as to why you want to stay in Boston and why you are not a flight risk. I lived in or around the city for 30+ years and when I went through OCI I faced questions as to why I left the city for school in Chicago and if I was really serious about coming back, so be ready for that.

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby suralin » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:13 pm

francesfarmer wrote:
whatsup2b wrote:
Suralin wrote:
ndirish2010 wrote:BC if equal COA. But don't go to BC at sticker.


Also, ties. Get them.


Note taken. Network like crazy during 1L.

What is the deal with "getting ties"? Is this possible?

I apologize for the threadjack but does having extended family in the area count as ties?


Yes, I'm pretty sure. You just need to convince the firm interviewing you that you won't jump ship, and ties are a good way to do so, particularly in insular legal markets (like Boston). Although, as noted above, going to BC is probably a good enough tie.

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby francesfarmer » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:19 pm

Is the PNW an insular legal market like Boston?

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby rad lulz » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:20 pm

I've heard a couple times that people who are from Boston tend to do better at BC OCI. That wouldn't surprise me, considering I've heard the same thing about other schools (ie Texas natives doing better at UT OCI). I don't know what this really means for small firms, but you're probably not gonna get a job at OCI from BC, so I'd keep that in mind.

Frankly, bc you're not from Boston, I wouldn't go unless it's close to being free

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Re: Boston College v. University of Washington

Postby rad lulz » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:21 pm

francesfarmer wrote:Is the PNW an insular legal market like Boston?

Incredibly insular.




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