3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

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3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby megmc » Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:46 pm

What are my best bets?? Confused on what I should do, i applied to all the CA schools aswell as GW,GT, and thinking of throwing in an app at michigan as well

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby Rahviveh » Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:47 pm

What kind of URM?

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby megmc » Mon Jan 07, 2013 4:58 pm

mixed european and african

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby Rahviveh » Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:17 pm

Blanket the T14 + UCLA and USC

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby megmc » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:31 pm

minus HYS i assume? you think i actually have a solid shot at some of the higher ranked T-14 C down?

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby Rahviveh » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:36 pm

http://search.lawschoolnumbers.com/user ... Cycle=1112

Not a lot of consistency in results for your stats. The 3.2 will make things difficult but I think you will get some T14's to bite. HYS might be out, but if I were in your shoes I would still send apps.

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby Dmini7 » Mon Jan 07, 2013 6:36 pm

You may have a shot at Harvard. I think 3.2 is their GPA Floor, and a URM just got their JS1 with a 162 (albeit a 3.8 GPA). If I were you, I would be willing to throw out that Hail Mary to Harvard.

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby mr.hands » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:14 pm

Dmini7 wrote:You may have a shot at Harvard. I think 3.2 is their GPA Floor, and a URM just got their JS1 with a 162 (albeit a 3.8 GPA). If I were you, I would be willing to throw out that Hail Mary to Harvard.


Eh i strongly disagree. A 3.8 162 is a splitter for Harvard. OP is waay below both medians. Even as a URM, his chances are low

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby megmc » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:32 pm

Ya I figured it would be more than a reach, what do you think are my realistic chances at the other t-14's?

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby lisjjen » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:34 pm

megmc wrote:Ya I figured it would be more than a reach, what do you think are my realistic chances at the other t-14's?


Strong. I got into Michigan and Cornell with a 161 (and a 3.75, but still).

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby megmc » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:38 pm

O awesome, did you write a why Michigan or why Cornell? I wish I knew I wanted to go to law school as a freshman, I would have tried so much harder!!! :x :x

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby lisjjen » Mon Jan 07, 2013 10:44 pm

megmc wrote:O awesome, did you write a why Michigan or why Cornell? I wish I knew I wanted to go to law school as a freshman, I would have tried so much harder!!! :x :x


I did not. Normally, a "Why X" essay is to convince schools that you aren't just a whimsy tossed undergrad and you actually know what you want to do with your life.

I had worked on the Hill by then and I have found that even a few months of work experience (not just a summer job) will catch an admission committee's eye.

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby megmc » Mon Jan 07, 2013 11:16 pm

Lucky you, thats quite impressive. I've had some part time experience at a law firm for three years (summers, breaks, family friend) and some other random post graduate jobs (family business & advertising agency) do you think it would be worth it to write one with my numbers? I know obviously it's not the same stature as working on the hill, but is it enough to bypass the essay?

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby wbrother » Tue Jan 08, 2013 12:05 pm

megmc wrote:mixed europeanand african


You see what I did? If at all possible, maybe do that on your apps? (wait for more knowledgable people to respond) I'm an AA URM with a 3.21 and a 164. I've been accepted to georgetown and USC so far (and some other lower ranked schools that you probably wouldn't/shouldn't be interested in). I'm betting you'll do tremendously well with a 166.

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby megmc » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:34 pm

I don't know if it's the best idea to lie about something as influential as that, could potentially come back and bite me in the ass. I truly associate with all the different parts of my ancestry so I don't mind putting them all on there Plus, I don't look full AA, so if for some reason they saw a picture of me next to my application claiming to be only AA, it might seem a little suspect.

But hopefully it works out anyways and congrats to you on getting into USC and GT, I have a friend who goes to GT right now and loves it. He actually just got a nice big law offer to come back to Los Angeles too which is pretty awesome. Did you write any of the supplementary essays for GT btw?

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby Dmini7 » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:41 pm

wbrother wrote:
megmc wrote:mixed europeanand african


You see what I did? If at all possible, maybe do that on your apps? (wait for more knowledgable people to respond) I'm an AA URM with a 3.21 and a 164. I've been accepted to georgetown and USC so far (and some other lower ranked schools that you probably wouldn't/shouldn't be interested in). I'm betting you'll do tremendously well with a 166.


Don't think the omission is needed. You still get the boost regardless if your mixed or not.

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby BlaqBella » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:45 pm

People seem to forget that there are not just black Africans. By OP stating she/he is "african" can mean a variety of racial ethnicities. There are White and Asian Africans, too.

OP, what type of African are you (ie which country in Africa do you or your parents hail from and which African racial ethnicity do you align yourself?)

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby megmc » Tue Jan 08, 2013 3:58 pm

Yes, you are correct Blaqbella..My mothers mom is from the Sudan

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby BlaqBella » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:00 pm

megmc wrote:Yes, you are correct Blaqbella..My mothers mom is from the Sudan


Afro-Arab or Arab?

More importantly, how do you identify yourself?

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby megmc » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:06 pm

I never really made that distinction, but she speaks arabic and married an italian/lebanese man, but she is black and family pictures of her family clearly show them as black as well..

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby BlaqBella » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:08 pm

And how have you identified yourself all these years?

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby megmc » Tue Jan 08, 2013 4:55 pm

mixed of european, middle eastern, african really all the way since I was a child I would check all that apply on any forms or whatever. I have a much closer connection to my Sudanese/middle eastern heritage then to my italian side (besides having an italian last name)..I feel 100% comfortable and don't feel that I'm lying or doing anything unethical to gain an advantage so I think thats all that really matters

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby twenty » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:46 pm

This is dumb.

A person having origins in any of the black racial groups of Africa.


Check this box. Don't do what wbrother suggests, since 1) that's misrepresentative, and 2) you'll get the same boost anyway. Thus;

A person having origins in any of the original peoples of Europe, the Middle East, or North Africa.


Check this box, too.

It doesn't really matter how you "identify" yourself -- you either are these things, or you're not.

edit> accidentally called out dmini. :D
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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby megmc » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:49 pm

Yea thats what I did and have always done whenever both are available. Otherwise, I put the white/caucasian and black/african boxes

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Re: 3.23, 166 URM Want to Practice in California, what do do

Postby BlaqBella » Tue Jan 08, 2013 5:57 pm

twentypercentmore wrote:It doesn't really matter how you "identify" yourself -- you either are these things, or you're not.


Wrong. One can be a mix of one or more racial ethnicities and only identify with one over the other.

This example has been brought to the attention of TLS numerous times where mixed/multi-racial applicants select to identify with one side of their heritage over others despite, for instance, having Afro/black in their blood.

Case in point: viewtopic.php?f=9&t=198849&p=6107303&hilit=identify+with+black#p6107303

Megmc, whatever you identify yourself as is what you should check off. Good luck in your cycle.




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