St. John's v. Rutgers - Newark Forum

ruralaw · Post by **ruralaw** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:28 pm

Thoughts on this?

The Rover · Post by **The Rover** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:32 pm

How about some more details for us to work with. Where are you from, where do you want to work, etc.

timbs4339 · Post by **timbs4339** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:32 pm

What is your expected COA at each school?

ruralaw · Post by **ruralaw** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:37 pm

I am comparing these two schools with plans to work in the NYC market if I attend one of them. I have not heard back from either yet; however, I expect I will recieve scholarships at both (not full rides but a decent amount), so I do not know what my COA will be yet. Just throwing this out there looking for any helpful advice if they differ much, if job prospects out of each will differ significantly, or for anyones input on their personal learnings about each school and which they prefer.

Eberry · Post by **Eberry** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:39 pm

Paging Nova.

The Rover · Post by **The Rover** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:41 pm

Neither are great for NYC. Follow the money. What is your GPA / LSAT?

20130312 · Post by **20130312** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:44 pm

Retake.

ndirish2010 · Post by **ndirish2010** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:45 pm

Rutgers with full ride if you have ties to NJ and want to stay there. Otherwise, retake.

suralin · Post by **suralin** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:47 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:Retake.

ruralaw · Post by **ruralaw** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:57 pm

Numbers are 3.97/157. I'm from PA, but Rutgers has options for gaining residency quickly which makes it appealing for price.

20130312 · Post by **20130312** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 1:59 pm

ruralaw wrote:Numbers are 3.97/157.

REEEETAAAAAAKE

Eberry · Post by **Eberry** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:00 pm

ruralaw wrote:Numbers are 3.97/157.

Please don't waste that GPA. Retake.

ruralaw · Post by **ruralaw** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:01 pm

InGoodFaith wrote:
ruralaw wrote:Numbers are 3.97/157.
REEEETAAAAAAKE

Probably should have. I was lazy and didn't study first time around.

timbs4339 · Post by **timbs4339** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:02 pm

ruralaw wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:
ruralaw wrote:Numbers are 3.97/157.
REEEETAAAAAAKE
Probably should have. I was lazy and didn't study first time around.

Reel em' in there.

20130312 · Post by **20130312** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:05 pm

ruralaw wrote:
InGoodFaith wrote:
ruralaw wrote:Numbers are 3.97/157.
REEEETAAAAAAKE
Probably should have. I was lazy and didn't study first time around.

Don't know what you mean by "should have." Just retake dude. Harvard wants you. Penn on a full ride wants you.

The Rover · Post by **The Rover** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:06 pm

Retake. Consider sitting out a cycle and applying for class of 2017. With that GPA the sky is the limit. Next year you could be deciding between Columbia and NYU instead of St. John's and Rutgers

suralin · Post by **suralin** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:10 pm

I'd do a whole lot of unmentionable things to have that GPA, and I'd study my ass off for the LSAT. PLEASE, FOR MY SAKE.

ruralaw · Post by **ruralaw** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:15 pm

Thanks guys. You're all correct; I should retake and give myself my best possible option. But, if I didn't retake, does my decision between these two schools matter? I know neither give me strong job prospects after, but curious if you guys think one is better than the other.

20130312 · Post by **20130312** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:21 pm

timbs4339 · Post by **timbs4339** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:27 pm

ruralaw wrote:Thanks guys. You're all correct; I should retake and give myself my best possible option. But, if I didn't retake, does my decision between these two schools matter? I know neither give me strong job prospects after, but curious if you guys think one is better than the other.

Well, what law do you want to practice?

rad lulz · Post by **rad lulz** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:29 pm

Just go to either school and fuck up your life.

dingbat · Post by **dingbat** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:31 pm

ruralaw wrote:Thanks guys. You're all correct; I should retake and give myself my best possible option. But, if I didn't retake, does my decision between these two schools matter? I know neither give me strong job prospects after, but curious if you guys think one is better than the other.

that depends on how you'd answer the following question:

Would you rather be castrated with a rusty teaspoon or have your nuts crushed with a sledgehammer?

If you tried to answer the question, go to Rutgers (less horrible than St. Johns). Otherwise, don't go to either, sit out a cycle and retake

ruralaw · Post by **ruralaw** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:31 pm

rad lulz wrote:Just go to either school and fuck up your life.

Cool. Thanks.

suralin · Post by **suralin** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:37 pm

dingbat wrote:
ruralaw wrote:Thanks guys. You're all correct; I should retake and give myself my best possible option. But, if I didn't retake, does my decision between these two schools matter? I know neither give me strong job prospects after, but curious if you guys think one is better than the other.
that depends on how you'd answer the following question:

Would you rather be castrated with a rusty teaspoon or have your nuts crushed with a sledgehammer?

If you tried to answer the question, go to Rutgers (less horrible than St. Johns). Otherwise, don't go to either, sit out a cycle and retake

Paul Campos · Post by **Paul Campos** » Mon Dec 31, 2012 2:50 pm

A story:

Last spring, I had a 30-minute phone conversation with an 0L who had graduated the year before from a top college with a 3.9something GPA. She had done a half-baked (really more quarter-baked from the sound of it) job of preparing for the LSAT and had gotten a 160 the previous October. She then ED'd to a top 40ish law school with pretty bad employment stats and was accepted at sticker. She was planning to 100% debt-finance law school, even though she was currently employed by a low-paying but interesting non-profit. Now she was having second thoughts.

In the course of the conversation I told her that I was normally fairly cautious about telling people that I didn't know what to do, but in her case she would be crazy not to re-take -- that a couple hundred hours of studying could quite possibly save her hundreds of thousands of dollars, so in effect she would be paying herself $1000 an hour if she made bumping her LSAT a few points her main job over the summer. She was extremely grateful and thanked me for keeping her from making a huge life mistake.

I just checked the web site of the school to which she ED'd and she's a 1L there.

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