Big Dog wrote:
Dean Chem ain't making a personal phone call for each of his students, so we don't even need to discuss that.
He IS making calls for some, and for those (few?) it IS worth discussing. But note, with the smaller classes, he has less calls to make.
Law firms saying they are committed to UCI is likewise irrelevant.
I disagree with this point too. Firms in OC have largely replaced hiring from Hastings with UCI grads, because they committed verbally and financially to help build the school.
here is basically no scenario where it would be. UCI's median's are the 75th+ percentile for Davis/Hastings/Loyola meaning that you will ALWAYS get much better money to go to any of the latter than UCI, not to mention CoL. UCI will always come out costing 25%+ more..
Perhaps, or just pure speculation on your part. Do you have (inside) info on how Hastings/Davis awards merit money? Who knows what $$ UCI will have to come up with this year to keep their numbers where they want them. But, IMO, even a few thousand dolllars cheaper is not a deal-maker. And btw, do you really believe that the COA in San Francisco is less than Irvine/Costa Mesa/Santa Ana?
so I just wanted to provide an unbiased opinion on the issue from someone who analyzes this market and admission trends...
Your fact-free opinion is just as good as anyone else's. But, don't be so dismissive with those who may have another opinion.
I lol'ed really hard at this. You're obviously a 0L.
Yes, Chem will make some calls, he won't make calls for everyone. Relying on YOU, as a student, to be one of the one's he makes calls for isn't a very good reason to attend. Likewise, as mentioned earlier, what in the world do you expect firms to say about UCI? That they won't be hiring from there? That would make no sense. Of course they say they'll support the school, but it was also easier to say that when the class numbers were lower. As for the scholly's, inside info? You don't need inside info, just go to law school admit and see what the MEDIAN numbers at UCI are getting at Davis/Hastings/Loyola in terms of money. You haven't been around long enough if you haven't put together that when you're above the 75th percentile at a school they will give you more money than a school where you're at median. As for CoA, San Fran is ONE of the schools I mentioned, not all. The CoL between all of them will however be comparable, but if you wanna cherry pick, then living at Davis will be cheaper than Irvine easily.
Finally, it isn't "fact-free" to say that UCI has no alumni network (thats NONE folks), its not "fact-free" to say that UCI cannot demonstrate hiring for decades and decades in the market like the other schools mentioned, its not "fact free" to say that UCI will offer you less money based on your numbers as their medians are much higher than other schools mentioned, its not "face free" to say that UCI costs an obnoxious amount of money as comapred to some of the other schools, etc, etc, etc.
Lastly, congrats on attending UCI next year BigDog!