ck3 wrote:I would really like to hear more about how LRAP at T14 schools effects these decisions. I have a full tuition offer at UGA which is in the area where I live and it would be great to live in Georgia after graduation though I am not averse to any part of the country if the situation is right. I would still have to borrow for living expenses. Another factor is that I own a house in GA so if I leave for T14, I have to sell or lease the house. I do not have any t14 offers yet but if I get one or more, the LRAP potential will be a significant part of my decision making process. So I would love for those who are more knowledgeable to comment more on how LRAP comes into the process. To me it seems like it is almost an insurance policy on your loan payments that insures you against a low salary. But maybe I am wrong.
Please share your thoughts.
I'm sure someone with more experience can explain in more detail, but taking LRAP into account is very difficult.
First, finding a good, LRAP qualifying job is more difficult than getting biglaw. It cannot be considered a backup plan because unless you tailor your law school (and pre law) experiences to show a dedication to the public interest, you're probably not going to have it as a real option.
Beyond the difficulties in finding a position, even if you find one and do not have law school debt to worry about, you still might have difficulty making ends meet. You could do some awesome work as a criminal attorney or even for Legal Aid (I'm sure people will disagree with that) but unless you have a SO who can help out or come from a wealthy family, your lifestyle isn't going to be fun. Given the relative ease of finding a biglaw job and the "comfort" (monetary comfort, at least) afforded by a biglaw salary, many are dissuaded from a PI career.
Finally, for most of the prestigious/interesting PI work, you're going to want to have biglaw experience anyway. Given that many PI organizations are underfunded, it shouldn't be surprising that they cannot afford to train new hires like biglaw can. Biglaw is great training and can funnel people into sustainable PI careers.
But, when choosing a school is the topic of discussion, the important thing to remember is that a T14 gives you a shot at these things. If you go to a T14 you might
have the opportunity to make a meaningful choice as to where and how you'd like to start your career. For the majority of students coming out of law school, that isn't true. Some food for thought.
'ing pretty hard at the BW/Tiago conversation above.
Suralin wrote:I don't understand why people feel like they must overstate the case to try to win an argument.
Trying to win an argument can be hard. I think Tiago's point should be considered: if you do the math (and I encourage everyone here to do their own math) TLS' new "160k isn't that great compared to X" bit is pretty risible. Although I disagree with BW's logic on most things here, I think that many 0Ls do not consider how big of a gamble they're making or the realities of sticker cost at a T14. Maybe I'll come around to his point of view seven months from now, but even taking the worst case scenario into consideration, I think that the T14 is likely the better option here. My reasoning is that the Atlanta market seems to be brutal for nearly anyone. I think UGA and Emory probably have issues based on that alone.